Obligatory End of Time reaction post

[sabotabby]

- I don't care how in-character it might have been. Ten's exit was cringeworthy.
- How is that Rassilon that makes no sense.
- I'm not sure which is worse: Jack/some random guy from some episode or Mickey/Martha. Both are kind of insulting. And Mickey and Martha were my favourite characters on the show.
- 25 minutes of sad goodbyes?
- That was a big waste of the Master.
- The only good parts were, "THAT'S RACIST," the Doctor not wanting Wilf's gun, and the Doctor proposing to the Master again. And it still wasn't enough to cancel out the fail.
- Was the Time Lady Romana?
- I am still unclear as to whether Ten was dead of radiation or of emo.

If the purpose of these episodes was to make me look forward to Eleven replacing Ten and Moffat replacing Rusty, they were 100% successful. Not that I wasn't looking forward to that anyway.

Comments

[mouseferatu.livejournal.com]

Apropos of nothing, may I steal that icon?

[sabotabby]

Of course! 'Twas made by the no-longer-on-LJ mimisoliel.

[fengi.livejournal.com]

Now THAT icon is make of win.

[sabotabby]

Absorbing the internets is what made Dalak Caan insane.

[troubleinchina.livejournal.com]

Having snuck around the internet taking tiny peeks at people's reactions, some think the Time Lady was the Doctor's mother.

I haven't seen it yet. TOMORROW!

[sabotabby]

I disapprove of the Doctor having a mother. Well, no, I'm not a LOOOMS! fanboy, but I don't think his mother is still alive.

On the upside of the equation ...

[ed-rex.livejournal.com]

There were a good 35 or 45 minutes in the middle that were, well, middlin' fun.

But sweet Jesus ... I've been thinking that Davies has just become full of himself ("Just become!?!" I hear you cry), but your point about,

I'm not sure which is worse: Jack/some random guy from some episode or Mickey/Martha. Both are kind of insulting.

has me considering the possibility he just (a) got bored of the whole god damned thing and (b) holds all of Whodom in contempt, full stop.

Happy fucking new year.

Edited to make spacing prettier.

Re: On the upside of the equation ...

[sabotabby]

Oh, there were fun bits. And Eleven is cute so far.

has me considering the possibility he just (a) got bored of the whole god damned thing and (b) holds all of Whodom in contempt, full stop.

I am in agreement. Though a lot of people seemed to think either or both was great. I am not fannish enough to argue with them.

Re: On the upside of the equation ...

[rojonoir.livejournal.com]

The whole thing makes more sense if you realize that David Tennant was playing Russell Davies instead of the Doctor.

Re: On the upside of the equation ...

[ed-rex.livejournal.com]

Though a lot of people seemed to think either or both was great.

Yeah. Maybe we're too old? I see all kinds of greatest episode ever! and I cried for the last 20 minutes remarks in Who community. And I don't see any point in arguing with their pleasure either.

hello btw

[treehavn.livejournal.com]

Yes. To all of this, but especially I am still unclear as to whether Ten was dead of radiation or of emo. And I have loved David Tennant since 1994, but after the half hour of the Doctor wandering into the lives of characters from the show, doing a woobie face and wandering out again, I was shouting at the tellybox 'JUST DIE ALREADY'.

Re: hello btw

[ed-rex.livejournal.com]

If I may interject, it wasn't Ten(nant)'s fault! The poor man struggled courageously with with a dog of a script, more than once over the past couple of years.

I've said elsewhere that I'm grateful to Davies for bringing the show back, but I'm sure glad he's finally taking his leave.

Re: hello btw

[sabotabby]

I don't blame Tennant. He's done well with some really cheesy material. I mean, he had to be Alien Tinkerbell Jesus! No one deserves that.

Re: hello btw

[sabotabby]

You and apparently most of the audience. Pacing fail!

[rojonoir.livejournal.com]

Maybe you missed the scene with the master in a straight-jacket, collar, and leash, or the one with the Doctor in the chair, fully strapped in and gagged. Just sayin.

I noted, but didn't notice, 'till you pointed it out

[ed-rex.livejournal.com]

But it still only helps ease the (non-consensual) pain in theory.

[sabotabby]

Bondage isn't really my kink. Though I liked that the second the Doctor was ungagged he started in with the marriage proposal.

[ironed_orchid]

We were all "do they kiss now?"...

[khalinche.livejournal.com]

That was way fucking hot, I have to admit.

[pluvka.livejournal.com]

the emo was ridiculous. ugh. it made me glad he was leaving, but i don't think they did that intentionally.
wtf happened to the master? did i miss that part? one moment he was shooting at the president and then.... nothing. what??

[sabotabby]

He went through the gate with the rest of them. Which is annoying because they didn't explain it, so he's either dead of using up too much energy and turning into that skull thing, trapped in a time bubble with stuffy folks in silly hats, or forced to repeat the Time War, which means does he then run away and become Yana again? I don't know. It was confusing.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I really liked the Jack thing...

Martha/Micky was WTF!?!

[sabotabby]

The Jack thing bothers me less. I think if the order hadn't been:

1) Ten saves Mickey's and Martha's lives
2) Ten saves Luke's life
3) Ten hooks up a still-grieving Jack with a guy from an episode I hated and it's presented as something other than a random shag

I would have been more accepting. But Jack can get laid on his own just fine; there's no need for the Doctor to waste his dying moments on it.

Martha and Mickey only make sense if it's far, far in the future (and that's why Mickey has the Beard of Hotness) and they've had time to exchange more than, like, three words with each other.

[seaya.livejournal.com]

Actually they went off together last we saw them, ostensibly to work together. But it could be in some future, given that the Doctor is a time lord.

But yes, beard of fucking hotness. I nom on him.

[khalinche.livejournal.com]

- I am still unclear as to whether Ten was dead of radiation or of emo.


LOL, me too.

[sabotabby]

Seeing as he's been shown to absorb large amounts of radiation before and been fine, I'm going to guess at the cause of death being either emo or hubris.

[pofflewomp.livejournal.com]

I missed it because I was reading in the bath and I forgot it is always on so early.

[90pointmetaphor.livejournal.com]

Yeah, definitely a fail.

We have this big problem where the whole human race has been turned into the Master, and then Timothy Dalton shows up and just undoes it. Then there's this whole horrible problem of Gallifrey coming back with all of these amazing horrors and threatening to wipe out the Earth and all it's going to take is killing the Master or Timothy Dalton to stop it? And even worse, shooting some convenient machine in the room has the same effect?

Instead of having an even quasi-satisfying response to the action, it gets wrapped up too quickly so we can sit through Davies saying goodbye to all of his characters? Couldn't that have been a 1-2 minute bit, with the possibility of using the rest of the footage in a DVD-extra (or whatever)?

I completely missed that it was Mickey with Martha the first time around. Definitely a WTF?

As for Jack and the random hookup with a past minor character (who I also missed recognizing), I can at least hope that's a setup for something and not just a random hookup.

[geneticallydead.livejournal.com]

- Was the Time Lady Romana?

Teh Boyfriend is one of those creepy Who fans who can quote things that happened in the 1963 episode with complete accuracy, and he declares Time Lady was Susan, the Doctor's granddaughter who was around very early on and just kind of drifted out of sight. His justification - Wilf asks who Time Lady was, and Ten gives a lingering look to Donna, Wilf's own granddaughter.

I thought it was a massive waste of awesome Time Lords too, honestly. I mean, how exciting! And then bam, the Master and the incredibly creepy Dalton just disappear again. But as obsessed boyfriend says, this opens the door on the Time Lock - the Daleks were said to be dead and gone too, until that door was opened in S1.

Underwhelming, really. I mean, total sadness with 'I don't want to go'. But seriously, the Jack thing was really insulting (Ten makes things better with hookups?) and it all went on way, way too long...

[ironed_orchid]

If emo could kill time lords, he woulda died when Rose was gone.

Mickey/Martha was all types of wrong. What happened to the fella she was engaged to?