I totally missed the sabotage idea, I'll have to see it again (I loved it, just the last part wrecked me).
It's up to interpretation, of course, but I thought it was implied pretty heavily.
Aww, I didn't know that about the part. I was first kind of ehh about it because I thought Oh no, they might do the "there are no atheist scientists in foxholes" thing, but the movie was actually too smart for that. He's also the one person other than Mindy and Oglethorpe who treats Kate like she has value.
I thought they were going there too, but they were so deliberate about it. Like the way they framed him as explicitly lumpen proletariat, someone for whom the dominant culture has no regard, and he's very much a white, working class, religious man who would be very much looked down upon by the sort of liberal elite that people keep accusing the filmmakers of being. But no, he and Oglethorpe are the consistently ethical people in the movie.
(I was pleasantly surprised Oglethorpe didn't die before everyone else did, too.)
Right? I thought that too. I also suspect the framing was meant to highlight that he was specifically dying at the exact same time.
-- Oh yeah I also found it weird the critics are like "It's America's job to solve! All the other countries are ignored!" when there were actually a bunch of shots of OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD throughout the movie, and also, COLONIALISM! Yes, probably this one giant superpower has the only chance to fix the problem, because it STOLE ALL THE RESOURCES. I remember scientists around the world freaking out when Trump gutted the CDC years before corona showed up. Only a lot of them were worried about a flu pandemic. Hi ho.
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It's up to interpretation, of course, but I thought it was implied pretty heavily.
Aww, I didn't know that about the part. I was first kind of ehh about it because I thought Oh no, they might do the "there are no atheist scientists in foxholes" thing, but the movie was actually too smart for that. He's also the one person other than Mindy and Oglethorpe who treats Kate like she has value.
I thought they were going there too, but they were so deliberate about it. Like the way they framed him as explicitly lumpen proletariat, someone for whom the dominant culture has no regard, and he's very much a white, working class, religious man who would be very much looked down upon by the sort of liberal elite that people keep accusing the filmmakers of being. But no, he and Oglethorpe are the consistently ethical people in the movie.
(I was pleasantly surprised Oglethorpe didn't die before everyone else did, too.)
Right? I thought that too. I also suspect the framing was meant to highlight that he was specifically dying at the exact same time.
-- Oh yeah I also found it weird the critics are like "It's America's job to solve! All the other countries are ignored!" when there were actually a bunch of shots of OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD throughout the movie, and also, COLONIALISM! Yes, probably this one giant superpower has the only chance to fix the problem, because it STOLE ALL THE RESOURCES. I remember scientists around the world freaking out when Trump gutted the CDC years before corona showed up. Only a lot of them were worried about a flu pandemic. Hi ho.
YES THIS.