ironed_orchid (
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2005-11-26 10:35 am (UTC)
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Here you go, this is the part I was thinking about, but the rest of the post is also very awesome:
Incidentally this is why I am not a Green. I am a Red. You can't be a Green and a Red at the same time. That doesn't mean you can't care deeply about the environment and be Red. Indeed you must: the workers have nothing to gain by shedding their chains in a ruined and filthy world. But you can't be Red and be a Malthusian, and I think that the global Green movement is exactly that. Marx's most bitter polemics were not against the Ricardians, they were against the Malthusians; the Marxist desire for justice is simply a mistake if scarcity is irremediable.
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Incidentally this is why I am not a Green. I am a Red. You can't be a Green and a Red at the same time. That doesn't mean you can't care deeply about the environment and be Red. Indeed you must: the workers have nothing to gain by shedding their chains in a ruined and filthy world. But you can't be Red and be a Malthusian, and I think that the global Green movement is exactly that. Marx's most bitter polemics were not against the Ricardians, they were against the Malthusians; the Marxist desire for justice is simply a mistake if scarcity is irremediable.