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sabotabby ([personal profile] sabotabby) wrote2018-10-27 08:41 pm

Grief and outrage

The 11 Jewish people murdered today by a white supremacist while in a synagogue—only a few days after two black people were murdered by a different white supremacist— were targeted at least in part because they were helping refugees.

If you grow up Jewish, you grow up knowing that something like this will happen. You learn your history. You do one of two things: You turn inward, closed off to the rest of the world, protective and fearful. Or you recognize the solidarity between all people. You understand that if they come for the Muslims, for the Latin American migrants, for the Black and Indigenous and trans people and disabled people, you understand that eventually they will come for you, too. The victims of today's horror took the latter approach, as I have tried to do all my life, and this makes the heinousness of the murderer's act hit that much harder.

The point is to have us cowing in terror, but but despite being rather profoundly secular and not relating to broad swathes of the mainstream Jewish community for various reasons, I'm kinda wanting to go to synagogue more, not less.

Fuck every fascist and fuck everyone who fertilizes the soil in which fascism has grown. There are people in the world like these Mexicans who are helping the migrants from the south on their long, painful journey to safety, there are people like HIAS, there are people who will take a stand and fight.  In the end, we'll still be here when fascism and white supremacy have been consigned to the dustbin of history.

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[personal profile] grimjim 2018-10-28 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Assuming radical life extension is democratized, how about we aim to literally still be around when history gets there?
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2018-10-28 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
I stand with you.

[personal profile] notasupervillain 2018-10-28 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Turning inward has never had them hate us less. Anyone full of hate will get around to hating us, and letting them persecute others won't protect us. All there is to do is be the bright light in the darkness.
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[personal profile] dewline 2018-10-28 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks at the posting you're replying to and mouths the words "What the actual HELL?"*
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[personal profile] franklanguage 2018-10-28 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Paul Robeson was one of the most amazing people who ever lived.
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[personal profile] dagibbs 2018-10-28 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I know!
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[personal profile] notasupervillain 2018-10-28 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I see being Jewish as giving me common cause with the downtrodden wherever I find them. This means the Palestinians, more and more. This is not a popular opinion with my fellow Jews.
That said, far too often the people support the Palestinians are primarily interested in their dislike of Jewish Israelis. Many of the people who claim to support Palestinians are not my allies.
It's a hard world we live in. All we can do is look for what our Work is, and do it. Helping children grow into good adults is a pretty important part of the Work.
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[personal profile] smhwpf 2018-10-28 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck every fascist and fuck everyone who fertilizes the soil in which fascism has grown. There are people in the world like these Mexicans who are helping the migrants from the south on their long, painful journey to safety, there are people like HIAS, there are people who will take a stand and fight. In the end, we'll still be here when fascism and white supremacy have been consigned to the dustbin of history.

Amen.

And wow, Paul Robeson.
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[personal profile] rdi 2018-10-28 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they were a really good band. Need to dig them out again.
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[personal profile] rdi 2018-10-28 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You are an AI in training and I claim my £5.
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[personal profile] dewline 2018-10-28 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
There are people pushing for such democratizations of such biotech, so don't count out the possibility!
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[personal profile] dewline 2018-10-28 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
They really should take that advice about the nap.
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[personal profile] dewline 2018-10-28 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No. DT-45 is not "a man from God". And as for most of the rest of it, I look at you as I would an ebola sample in secure containment.

I will acknowledge that Putin is getting "advice" from some Very Bad People.

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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2018-10-28 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I see being Jewish as giving me common cause with the downtrodden wherever I find them.

Jewish people holding to this ethos have changed my life several times over, always for the better.
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[personal profile] ironed_orchid 2018-10-29 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
As always, you are brilliant and articulate and I love you.

[personal profile] notasupervillain 2018-10-29 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
So often, I feel like the majority of Jews have learned the wrong lesson from history. We've learned to be afraid of the downtrodden. The fear is rational, but it doesn't make us safer.

[personal profile] notasupervillain 2018-10-29 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
:)

[personal profile] notasupervillain 2018-10-29 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
THESE POINTS ARE LITERALLY IN A STRAIGHT LINE.
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[personal profile] rdi 2018-10-29 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, UFO were a mediocre English metal band. Not remotely goth.

Hybrids of Fallen Angels is totally the name of my next band, though. Thanks for that.
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[personal profile] rdi 2018-10-29 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
If we can find the OP, certainly.