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sabotabby ([personal profile] sabotabby) wrote2006-02-05 03:29 pm

Questions to wrap up your weekend

Everyone's sick of talking about the stupid cartoons (although I have a new-found confidence in [livejournal.com profile] gaybortion, which is way better than any of them and also has never caused a riot. So hah!), so let's talk about more interesting subjects.

Baby Godwin is a sad panda.

Rumsfeld compared Hugo Chavez to Hitler.
Then Chavez said that Bush was worse than Hitler.

[Poll #667317]

(Hat tip to [livejournal.com profile] roter_terror and [livejournal.com profile] springheel_jack.)
Also, OCAP and Uprising are doing joint movie nights and are looking for recommendations for movies to show. They must be fun (that means no didactic documentaries, kthnx) and political in some way. Until the spring, exceedingly long movies like The Battle of Algiers cannot be shown because Uprising has no heat.

La Haine, They Live!, Life and Debt and The Harder They Come have all been recommended, and I'm being told to quash any suggestions of Bread and Roses. (Heh.)

Personally, I recommend this political movie.
Marinetti thanks everyone for the birthday wishes and fealty. He is now passed out in the living room.

Personally, I recommend this political movie.

[identity profile] frandroid.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Cow Tse Tongue!! Best pun in the entire thing.

[identity profile] smhwpf.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Probably not, but you can never tell with these guys. Rumsfeld's remarks? Softening people up so that they could if they really decided they wanted to. I can't see a scenario where it would become likely, but I wouldn't put it past them if somehow circumstances were to arise that gave them a reason. At any rate, if I were a Venezuelan military planner, I'd consider it an eventuality that should be taken seriously and planned for as a worst-case scenario. Or perhaps slightly more likely, a US-backed attack by Colombia.

[identity profile] lovableatheist.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ma 6-T Va Craquer. French hip-hop movie showing poor kids fighting cops. Great riot scenes at the end. Kind of like La Haine, but not as good. Just more violent, but you have to wait till the end to get the goods.

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Only if you have 4 to 6 hours.
ironed_orchid: (YAY)

Re: i'm confused

[personal profile] ironed_orchid 2006-02-06 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Gender revolutionary cow! Yay.

[identity profile] lovableatheist.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'd actually rather not picture that, thank you very much.

Re: Personally, I recommend this political movie.

[identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I love that song. I posted about it last week I believe. On Dana Lyons' website, there is a chronicle of how he wrote the lyrics.

http://www.cowswithguns.com/Cowstory.html

[identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the internets says (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=hugo+chavez&word2=adolf+hitler) Hugo Chavez kicks Adolf Hitler's ass hands down.

[identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Bush kicks his ass too. Poor Hitler is now the bitch of a neoconservative (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=george+w.+bush&word2=adolf+hitler). LOL.

[identity profile] frandroid.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused. I meant Ken Loach, so Land and Freedom.

Re: Personally, I recommend this political movie.

[identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Haha.

Judging by the book cover, it looks like a book for children. Cat in the Hat meets Che Guevera meets Rambo.

Re: Personally, I recommend this political movie.

[identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
It instills the values of the revolution in a form kids understand. Plus, the kids who grow up reading it will most likely come in support of the bovine revolution, give up the reins of power wilingly, thereby eliminating a violent bloodbath in the struggle between human vs bovine. (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=human&word2=cow)

[identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Laugh all you like at the misfortune of poor Trotsky. In all fairness, though, Stalin never boinged Frida Kahlo. :-P

[identity profile] frandroid.livejournal.com 2006-02-06 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think that the popular support Chavez has would spell out *massive guerilla warfare*. I mean it's nothing like Saddam Hussein, who was mostly reviled, even by the people who had sectarian sympathies or connections with him. Chavez actually has massive popular support. Considering the quagmire that the U.S. is currently in Iraq, and the intense strain it is creating on the entire armed forces in the U.S., a military operation in Venezuela is unlikely.

As for proxy forces, well, Columbia isn't even in control of itself, and setting off that kind of regional algebra might end up worse for the U.S. in the end. I mean you start a war only because you're completely desperate or you think you have a massive advantage over the other party. I don't think that the U.S. is in either position, and unlike Iraq, I don't think it's even deluded to be in either position.

As far as invading countries goes, I'd put a lot more money on Iran, which could be even stupider than invading Venezuela in a way, but more relevant to U.S. geopolitical interests. I mean Iran is selling its oil and gas in 25-year contracts to China and India, but I don't think Venezuela is. Iran is probably meddling in Iraq as well as trying to get nukes, and is a constant threat to Israel.

Venezuelan oil is still flowing freely to the U.S., and while it's gaining some influence in Latin America, it's still relatively benign outside its own borders, other than shoring up Cuba, which is a symbolic rather than actual threat.

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