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How about this? How about if you commit a crime (especially a violent one) and are caught and your immigration/refugee status is still being looked at, it gets automatically cancelled upon conviction and you get deported?

The big problem with this is the whole inconvenient "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Considering where many people come from, we could easily be condemning an innocent person (or a person guilty of a lesser offence than murder) to torture or death.

The thing that the HWB doesn't get, and most conservatives don't get, is that we already do have laws covering all of these things. What happened in Scarborough was blatantly illegal on a number of levels, and once they catch the dudes, they will be going away for a long time. More laws won't prevent criminals from breaking them or retroactively save the victims' lives. What we need is preventative measures.

And how about otherwise we just do what we can with programmes in jails, and with addressing the root causes of violent lifestyles, instead of having this little fantasy that you can be your own little city-state that has its own citizenship separate from Canada's, and that you can then get to control who lives there?

This.

Don't worry, I don't think Kingston is that crazy. It's kind of a nice, sleepy town. It's not trying to be the centre of the universe like Toronto so wackos don't run for mayor, I don't think.