Seriously, if everyone is going to look away and do nothing when peaceful demonstrations explode into full blown civil war, they can at least agree to take in the people who are trying to flee the mess they let happen.
I'm more hawkish than you - acknowledging that there are some conflicts that cannot be stabilized or solved (like Somalia in the 90s - and I am proud that my home state has welcomed Somali refugees - even though it's perplexing that they decided to come to a state where it's winter six months out of the year) and this has been driving me apeshit for years. The worst was when Assad was gassing people and there was just a sliver of hope that Western countries would get involved. And then everyone voted against it and Putin wrote his fucking New York Times editorial and all over FB people that I normally respect were praising Putin for being a PEACE ACTIVIST - like they didn't get that a dictator writing an editorial in support of the murderous regime that represents the last ally that Russia has in the region is pretty much the opposite of peace.
And then there was some bullshit agreement and everyone acted like it was the greatest thing in the world. And what was worse was that the actions being proposed were designed to keep anyone from sending troops. Like they can't impose a FUCKING NO-FLY ZONE???? Imposing a No-Fly Zone in order to minimize casualties is War Mongering and yet telling everyone to just stay out of a civil war that promises to spiral even further into blood and death is PACIFISM???
And this was just as FSA was losing all hope of victory or even dominance of rebels. It was also before ISIS showed just how fucking crazy the war could get.
Of course, for even more dickish behavior, there were the super Zionists who suddenly discovered that there was a civil war going on in Syria just as Israel and Hamas went at it again. Defending Israel with rhetoric in that conflict is one thing (I did it quite a bit mostly based on limited options for Israel) but using "LOOK! Over there! There's something much worse!" is ridiculous and more than a little evil (of course, I blocked the assholes whose take on the Syrian civil war was "fuck it, they're Muslims" whether or not they were friends)
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Date: 2015-09-03 11:04 pm (UTC)I'm more hawkish than you - acknowledging that there are some conflicts that cannot be stabilized or solved (like Somalia in the 90s - and I am proud that my home state has welcomed Somali refugees - even though it's perplexing that they decided to come to a state where it's winter six months out of the year) and this has been driving me apeshit for years. The worst was when Assad was gassing people and there was just a sliver of hope that Western countries would get involved. And then everyone voted against it and Putin wrote his fucking New York Times editorial and all over FB people that I normally respect were praising Putin for being a PEACE ACTIVIST - like they didn't get that a dictator writing an editorial in support of the murderous regime that represents the last ally that Russia has in the region is pretty much the opposite of peace.
And then there was some bullshit agreement and everyone acted like it was the greatest thing in the world. And what was worse was that the actions being proposed were designed to keep anyone from sending troops. Like they can't impose a FUCKING NO-FLY ZONE???? Imposing a No-Fly Zone in order to minimize casualties is War Mongering and yet telling everyone to just stay out of a civil war that promises to spiral even further into blood and death is PACIFISM???
And this was just as FSA was losing all hope of victory or even dominance of rebels. It was also before ISIS showed just how fucking crazy the war could get.
Of course, for even more dickish behavior, there were the super Zionists who suddenly discovered that there was a civil war going on in Syria just as Israel and Hamas went at it again. Defending Israel with rhetoric in that conflict is one thing (I did it quite a bit mostly based on limited options for Israel) but using "LOOK! Over there! There's something much worse!" is ridiculous and more than a little evil (of course, I blocked the assholes whose take on the Syrian civil war was "fuck it, they're Muslims" whether or not they were friends)