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Mar. 3rd, 2007 06:52 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
sabotabbyRemember how I said that I didn't think anyone would post the story about a kid dying because he didn't have dental coverage to ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
conservatism or libertarianism? I called it wrong. It's now been posted to both.
I was right that the response would be scary.
"While this ultimately wasn't the reason the boy died, I couldn't help but notice there wasn't even one mention of the father being anywhere in the picture.
So, basically, assuming the article didn't fail to mention the dad for whatever reason, this woman had two kids on an obviously low income, and the father is nowhere to be found.
Poor life choices started this journey. The bureaucracy finished it." – The appropriately named![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
theblackoil.
"If America's "expensive" healthcare goes away, the quality will go with it." -fishsupreme, whose daddy is a dentist.
"I also would like to add that the whole thing is stupid. These kids were on insurance and she couldn't pay an extra eighty bucks? What?" -ghoststrider, who has apparently never met a poor person.
"Maybe it's not the GOVERNMENT'S fault, but maybe its the dentist's fault for not seeing a patient in need or working out a payment plan. Then again, who's ultimately responsible for their children's welfare? The feds? The state? or his own mother and father?"
" Plus as mentioned in another thread, this sounds like child abuse and so it should have been reported and the mother should be in jail for this." –ilovethecure, predictably.
"in a free economy, such things as deamonte's death wouldn't happen. there'd be an incomprehensible amount of medical progress - and abundance. one of the death blows to the fear and hatred of capitalism is that the impulse to charity is biologically present. (hard-core economistic-interpretation types, who'd claim charitable donations are purely about tax-lessening, are unable to explain the huge charity projects of the 19th century, pre-income-tax.)" -birkin, who claims that his wife died of cancer when they were poor because they couldn't afford a better doctor. Clearly, he lost his mind after that experience.
"If I'm in debt and can find a way to get $1200 for an emergency plane ticket for my grandmothers funeral I think that a mother can scrounge up $80 for obviously needed dentist work for her son." –strbjun, who is internet-poor.
"Their fault." –macchaos.
"I've worked with the homeless before so I know that it's exceptionally rare that the homeless have any money whatsoever.
I will say this-if it is a fact that the mother has a mental illness, I will no longer blame her."
"Oh. Well, yeah, I think the primary responsibility falls upon the mother, though I am angry no one intervened in this child's life in time when so many people could have. It's a disgrace.
If if it makes any difference, I'm upper middle class." –uberarcanist. El oh el.
"this just further proves what i've been saying for years: poor people eat too much candy." –xdavinx. The level of absurdity in the thread was so high by this point that I can't tell if this cat is joking.
"I bet that mom thinks twice about skipping an $80 dental procedure.
I wonder how much junk food/alcohol/cigarettes that bought. Helpful hint: more toothpaste, less sugary snacks."reality_hammer. Not joking.
These people should all be cut off from the society that they, in their Randroid-Thatcherite-Reaganite 20-something-upper-middle-class sheltered existences, do not believe exists or affects them in any way, and be left to starve in the wilderness, if any remains after their ideological overlords have burned and pillaged every inch of our world. Beyond that, the only thing I can say is
brownfist and I went to Seekers yesterday. He looked at serious books and I giggled over the backs of Ayn Rand books. That's why he's an academic and I'm not.
Besides that, I mostly wrote and painted today and was kind of productive. My head is going all weird, so I have bursts of inspiration in between long stretches of apathy. YAY.
conservatism or libertarianism? I called it wrong. It's now been posted to both.I was right that the response would be scary.
"While this ultimately wasn't the reason the boy died, I couldn't help but notice there wasn't even one mention of the father being anywhere in the picture.
So, basically, assuming the article didn't fail to mention the dad for whatever reason, this woman had two kids on an obviously low income, and the father is nowhere to be found.
Poor life choices started this journey. The bureaucracy finished it." – The appropriately named
theblackoil."If America's "expensive" healthcare goes away, the quality will go with it." -
fishsupreme, whose daddy is a dentist."I also would like to add that the whole thing is stupid. These kids were on insurance and she couldn't pay an extra eighty bucks? What?" -
ghoststrider, who has apparently never met a poor person."Maybe it's not the GOVERNMENT'S fault, but maybe its the dentist's fault for not seeing a patient in need or working out a payment plan. Then again, who's ultimately responsible for their children's welfare? The feds? The state? or his own mother and father?"
" Plus as mentioned in another thread, this sounds like child abuse and so it should have been reported and the mother should be in jail for this." –
ilovethecure, predictably."in a free economy, such things as deamonte's death wouldn't happen. there'd be an incomprehensible amount of medical progress - and abundance. one of the death blows to the fear and hatred of capitalism is that the impulse to charity is biologically present. (hard-core economistic-interpretation types, who'd claim charitable donations are purely about tax-lessening, are unable to explain the huge charity projects of the 19th century, pre-income-tax.)" -
birkin, who claims that his wife died of cancer when they were poor because they couldn't afford a better doctor. Clearly, he lost his mind after that experience."If I'm in debt and can find a way to get $1200 for an emergency plane ticket for my grandmothers funeral I think that a mother can scrounge up $80 for obviously needed dentist work for her son." –
strbjun, who is internet-poor."Their fault." –
macchaos."I've worked with the homeless before so I know that it's exceptionally rare that the homeless have any money whatsoever.
I will say this-if it is a fact that the mother has a mental illness, I will no longer blame her."
"Oh. Well, yeah, I think the primary responsibility falls upon the mother, though I am angry no one intervened in this child's life in time when so many people could have. It's a disgrace.
If if it makes any difference, I'm upper middle class." –
uberarcanist. El oh el."this just further proves what i've been saying for years: poor people eat too much candy." –
xdavinx. The level of absurdity in the thread was so high by this point that I can't tell if this cat is joking."I bet that mom thinks twice about skipping an $80 dental procedure.
I wonder how much junk food/alcohol/cigarettes that bought. Helpful hint: more toothpaste, less sugary snacks."
reality_hammer. Not joking.These people should all be cut off from the society that they, in their Randroid-Thatcherite-Reaganite 20-something-upper-middle-class sheltered existences, do not believe exists or affects them in any way, and be left to starve in the wilderness, if any remains after their ideological overlords have burned and pillaged every inch of our world. Beyond that, the only thing I can say is
brownfist and I went to Seekers yesterday. He looked at serious books and I giggled over the backs of Ayn Rand books. That's why he's an academic and I'm not.Besides that, I mostly wrote and painted today and was kind of productive. My head is going all weird, so I have bursts of inspiration in between long stretches of apathy. YAY.
