sabotabby: raccoon anarchy symbol (go fuck yourself)
[personal profile] sabotabby
1. The shooter is probably mentally ill, so the attack is probably not politically motivated.

This, to me, is a disturbing statement, both because of its ableism and because of its denial of agency. I have clinical depression but I am also politically left-wing. Glenn Beck is bipolar and is a fascist. Many suicide bombers are mentally ill, and yet this can be conveniently forgotten if the perpetrator is brown. (Only white people are mentally ill, right?)

Most paranoid schizophrenics manage not to kill people. No paranoid schizophrenic, unless he or she is living in the wilderness, is entirely isolated from social, cultural, and political context.

2. The shooter may not be a card-carrying member of any political party or movement, so the attack is not political.

It's a very American idea, really, that one has to be registered as a voting member of a political party to be considered political. I'm a socialist, but this can mean all sorts of things. I'm not a member of any political party (the only political card I hold is an IWW red card, and I can hardly be considered an active member these days), but I still somehow manage to hold political opinions.

I was at a G20 rally yesterday. It was an interesting mix of people, including some folks I can only assume were undercover cops. There were very few familiar faces and a staggering variety of political opinions, many of which I don't hold. I'm not a pro-pot activist*, a Trotskyist, a member of the NDP, an anarchist, or a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but all of those people were there, strange bedfellows for a sort of nebulous cause, and grouped, however uncomfortably, under the broad political designation of "left."

The right, in North America, is nearly as diverse and just as full of internal contradiction, if a little better organized. One cannot simply assume that an individual is not politically right-wing because they don't vote Republican, or because they smoke pot. We can consider anti-government militia types and people who think that the government should have staggeringly more power as broadly right-wing, just as we can consider anarchists and Stalinists as broadly left-wing.


3. The guns at political events issue.

Funnily enough, I was just remarking the other day that I don't understand why there's not a huge movement of gun owners in favour of gun control. Granted, the gun enthusiasts I know may not be typical (hardcore types who want to be prepared come the revolution, sport shooters, and hunters), but beyond the revolutionary argument for gun ownership and perhaps financial considerations, I really can't imagine a logical argument against licensing and regulation. It seems like this could be an area of common ground between the right and the left, but American right-wingers really do seem to think there should be no restrictions on weapons whatsoever.

When I hear about people openly carrying guns to town hall events, it makes me wonder why there aren't more assassination attempts, or at least accidents. Honestly, Americans, you don't get how weird that looks to the rest of the world.

4. Both sides have extremes.

This is wishy-washy liberalism at its worst. The American left is flaccid, passive, and fairly right-wing by global standards. Some people on the American right use Mexican migrants as target practice, others call for torture and assassination, and some openly admit that they can't wait for the apocalypse. There's no balance here, folks. Also, calling someone a "teabagger" is not the same as calling someone an "illegal," or worse.

5. Words have power/words don't have power.

When Ward Churchill wrote "Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens" in 2001, the right (and large swaths of the left) went after him. Only the far-left granted him any sort of "right to free speech"; to the rest of North American political society, there was little distinction between a perceived justification of terrorist acts and actually committing terrorist acts. The right now seems to think that death threats are protected speech, so long as they're directed against the centre or left, and cannot be linked to actual acts of violence.

Just as asinine, of course, is the argument that political rhetoric alone will create a new Rwanda in the U.S., but I've seen much less of that argument on the intertubes.

6. The Nazis were left-wing.

What? I keep seeing this everywhere. What are they teaching in these schools?

7. You shouldn't politicize tragedy.

Really? No, really? Why the hell not?

* I think pot should be legal, don't get me wrong. I'm just incredibly apathetic about it.
Page 3 of 3 << [1] [2] [3] >>

Date: 2011-01-10 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goodlookinout.livejournal.com
Exactly what I was going to say. Except it makes me ANGRY because I am in such agreement with it and angry at everything it is saying, if that makes sense! lol

Date: 2011-01-10 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
I'm too tired to concentrate, and not read much news as been on holiday. But I have been meaning to ask you as Someone Who Knows Things about something my dad said the other week about how the U.S. gun-owning weirdness originally came from the right to bear arms against the government in protest if the government went Bad. Is this so? I always thought it originated with the right to defend one's property etc, having learned about John Locke and Libertarianism at A Level many years ago.

I always thought Stalinism was right wing. "The further left you go, the more right wing you become."

Yes about mental health and deranged gunmen. I assumed all right wingers were mad, but then I've never been one for being sensible or polite or bothering to look beyond wild hyperbole for subtle possibilities or any suchlike.

Date: 2011-01-10 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
Did you hear about this?
I am shocked at the lengths the police go to!
Also I am worried that people will think I am an undercover policewoman.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/10/mark-kennedy-undercover-cop-activist

Date: 2011-01-11 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
And, oh yeah, the guy is definitely political.

Date: 2011-01-11 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
Interesting about the gun ownership. My dad is, although an appalling parent, pretty amazing politically, having been an anarchist and now for many years a socialist who actually lives by his principles (he usually gives away any money he earns beyond his barest needs, only works in decent professions - now teaching adults literacy and numeracy (but won't take the jobs organised by government schemes forcing people to go on courses in order to be allowed benefits); previously a protest and trade union banner maker (and then he often made banners for free for people who couldn't afford them but whose causes were important). Pity that political coolness went with personal neurotic violent crap, but I think that is often the case with 70s socialist types.

I hadn't thought of the owning up to Stalinism bit. I haven't ever been in a situation to have the need, but I see your point. I haven't met many educated right wing people - ones I meet tend to be very ill-educated indeed, so don't know enough about Stalin for it to be necessary. The only true Tory I know didn't recognise a painting of Lenin we saw in a pub, and turned out not to have heard of him!

Date: 2011-01-11 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
Ha ha. I volunteere at Campaign Against the Arms Trade many years ago, and remember they used to be obsessed with secrecy over their constant meetings, all scurrying upstairs to have meetings every hour or so, leaving us volunteers below. I worry I will be a suspect as I want to volunteer for stuff but am unaccustomed to the mores of such groups, and not at all interested in the itty bitty nitty gritty details, just in the DOING something about everything, and I have posh(ish) accent and have no explanation for what I've been doing for the last decade! I wonder if the women's group where I've started volunteering has fears of police infiltration...
I am shocked that police resources are being wasted on such idiocy. It makes me furious.

Date: 2011-01-11 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
I believe most people don't really deserve to live, and I am very left! But I wouldn't want people to be owning guns or killing people. I just want people to stop being horrible and start deserving to live, instead.

Date: 2011-01-11 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
Of course, the people I would consider not deserving of nice life are usually the more right wing types, although it comes down to personal nastiness rather than general political beliefs, usually, as I have met some nice people who are for reasons completely beyond my comprehension right wing. Although, of course, right wing here is probably liberal in the U.S. - obviously the right wing people I know here believe in having a welfare state, for example!

Date: 2011-01-12 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sphinctourist.livejournal.com
Bad? Seems like the most rational response to a world where the line between the cops and the criminals gets blurrier with every passing year. Also, you would look Uber-Seeeeexxxy in a spandex uniform.
Page 3 of 3 << [1] [2] [3] >>

Profile

sabotabby: raccoon anarchy symbol (Default)
sabotabby

June 2025

S M T W T F S
123 45 67
8 910 1112 1314
15 1617 1819 2021
22232425262728
2930     

Style Credit

Page generated Jun. 22nd, 2025 05:35 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags

Most Popular Tags