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1. The shooter is probably mentally ill, so the attack is probably not politically motivated.

This, to me, is a disturbing statement, both because of its ableism and because of its denial of agency. I have clinical depression but I am also politically left-wing. Glenn Beck is bipolar and is a fascist. Many suicide bombers are mentally ill, and yet this can be conveniently forgotten if the perpetrator is brown. (Only white people are mentally ill, right?)

Most paranoid schizophrenics manage not to kill people. No paranoid schizophrenic, unless he or she is living in the wilderness, is entirely isolated from social, cultural, and political context.

2. The shooter may not be a card-carrying member of any political party or movement, so the attack is not political.

It's a very American idea, really, that one has to be registered as a voting member of a political party to be considered political. I'm a socialist, but this can mean all sorts of things. I'm not a member of any political party (the only political card I hold is an IWW red card, and I can hardly be considered an active member these days), but I still somehow manage to hold political opinions.

I was at a G20 rally yesterday. It was an interesting mix of people, including some folks I can only assume were undercover cops. There were very few familiar faces and a staggering variety of political opinions, many of which I don't hold. I'm not a pro-pot activist*, a Trotskyist, a member of the NDP, an anarchist, or a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but all of those people were there, strange bedfellows for a sort of nebulous cause, and grouped, however uncomfortably, under the broad political designation of "left."

The right, in North America, is nearly as diverse and just as full of internal contradiction, if a little better organized. One cannot simply assume that an individual is not politically right-wing because they don't vote Republican, or because they smoke pot. We can consider anti-government militia types and people who think that the government should have staggeringly more power as broadly right-wing, just as we can consider anarchists and Stalinists as broadly left-wing.


3. The guns at political events issue.

Funnily enough, I was just remarking the other day that I don't understand why there's not a huge movement of gun owners in favour of gun control. Granted, the gun enthusiasts I know may not be typical (hardcore types who want to be prepared come the revolution, sport shooters, and hunters), but beyond the revolutionary argument for gun ownership and perhaps financial considerations, I really can't imagine a logical argument against licensing and regulation. It seems like this could be an area of common ground between the right and the left, but American right-wingers really do seem to think there should be no restrictions on weapons whatsoever.

When I hear about people openly carrying guns to town hall events, it makes me wonder why there aren't more assassination attempts, or at least accidents. Honestly, Americans, you don't get how weird that looks to the rest of the world.

4. Both sides have extremes.

This is wishy-washy liberalism at its worst. The American left is flaccid, passive, and fairly right-wing by global standards. Some people on the American right use Mexican migrants as target practice, others call for torture and assassination, and some openly admit that they can't wait for the apocalypse. There's no balance here, folks. Also, calling someone a "teabagger" is not the same as calling someone an "illegal," or worse.

5. Words have power/words don't have power.

When Ward Churchill wrote "Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens" in 2001, the right (and large swaths of the left) went after him. Only the far-left granted him any sort of "right to free speech"; to the rest of North American political society, there was little distinction between a perceived justification of terrorist acts and actually committing terrorist acts. The right now seems to think that death threats are protected speech, so long as they're directed against the centre or left, and cannot be linked to actual acts of violence.

Just as asinine, of course, is the argument that political rhetoric alone will create a new Rwanda in the U.S., but I've seen much less of that argument on the intertubes.

6. The Nazis were left-wing.

What? I keep seeing this everywhere. What are they teaching in these schools?

7. You shouldn't politicize tragedy.

Really? No, really? Why the hell not?

* I think pot should be legal, don't get me wrong. I'm just incredibly apathetic about it.
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Date: 2011-01-09 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com
Pretty much in full agreement with you, especially on point 1. point one is really frightening and upsetting me because it is ALWAYS the first question anyone asks.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radiumhead.livejournal.com
Oh my god, #4 drives me INSANE. The republican crazies outnumber the democrat crazies like, 50 to 1. And whenever you point out on line that in general republicans are crazy assholes, someone brings up one crazy democrat and says "well what about so and so?" THAT DOESNT BLALANCE IT OUT. ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvmatucha.livejournal.com
Many suicide bombers are mentally ill, and yet this can be conveniently forgotten if the perpetrator is brown. (Only white people are mentally ill, right?)

She shoots, she scores!

Did you ever watch this?

http://jvmatucha.livejournal.com/411493.html

Would you mind if I linked to this post?

Date: 2011-01-09 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvmatucha.livejournal.com
My name is Jeffrey and I find this comment to be awesome in the extreme.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com
Or that a lot of people with mental illness who commit violent crimes are taking illegal drugs or have substance abuse issues, meaning that it isn't as simple as "HOMG CRAZY PERSON = VIOLENT!"

People who don't think that "sane' people commit plenty of systemic violence have either no understanding of history and current politics or are very, very naive.

thanks.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radiumhead.livejournal.com
and noone in the media says this. and its common sense. they always have to play that "theres crazies on both sides" game, like its some kind of fucking RULE that they have to say that.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
#2 is very US-centric. There can be no doubt what my political affiliation is and I'm not affiliated with anyone. So strange and a very sterile way of thinking and doing politics.

#4 makes me want shave my head so I don't have to tear my head out. I hate that so much. "You're only showing your side" FFS!

#6 The Nazi's were left wing because they were socialists, duh! National Socialism, hello!

#7 Because tragedy is personal and private and other kinds of illogical BS that comes from people who don't understand that tragedy (but not everything that is tragic) is a spectacle and thus always political.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnanel.livejournal.com
Hell, I think it's awesome in the extreme, and my name's not even Jeffrey.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnanel.livejournal.com
When I came to the US, I was confronted with a completely new approach to politics. There are exactly three political positions. They are called Republican, Democrat, and Independent. You have to tell the state what your political position is. Independents are allowed to feel superior to the others for some odd reason. It's all very strange.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnanel.livejournal.com
I wish more people thought as clearly as you do, and that they spoke about it as clearly.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvmatucha.livejournal.com
That is my favorite Bil Maher rant ever. I don't always agree with him or think he's the bee's knees or anything, but I just love that clip.

Date: 2011-01-09 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firinel.livejournal.com
That means that you're doing about 50% better than most, I'd guess.

Date: 2011-01-09 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] troubleinchina.livejournal.com
I have about a million thoughts about all of this (as you can imagine) but #2 is an argument my father makes all the time. He considers me not to be involved in politics because I'm no longer a card-carrying member of a political party, nor will I ever be again, and thus, obviously, I am not involved in, nor do I care about, politics. I wonder if it's an age thing, frankly.

Date: 2011-01-09 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lokilokust.livejournal.com
i've lived here for 34 years now, and it's still pretty fucking strange to me.

Date: 2011-01-09 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lokilokust.livejournal.com
i love you for this.

Date: 2011-01-10 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poetic-pixie-13.livejournal.com
This post makes me so, so happy. Thanks for it.

Date: 2011-01-10 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] springheel-jack.livejournal.com
The second amendment / gun culture produces a lot of really hilarious and weird results, like a huge army of guys openly toting semi-auto pistols and everyone having to publicly say that it's not therefore a paramilitary attempting to intimidate their opponents. It's just Individuals Choosing to Exercise a Right.

You can't get into secret-service protected events with a gun, of course. Nobody gets within a quarter mile of the President who is packing, even in concealed-carry states. I expect that sort of thing to be expanded after this. Lots more metal detectors and backscatter nudie-rama machines. Just like in Israel, another country where people openly tote weapons all the time; the price is that you have to be inspected all the time and, of course, profiled.

Date: 2011-01-10 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] springheel-jack.livejournal.com
While I certainly take your point, that it's weird to have to register a party affiliation in a closed-primary state (assuming you live in one, and that you care to vote in the primary), and the range of political opinion in the news media is bizarrely closed, it's a mistake to confuse pseudo-official reflections of politics with politics itself, and to understate the lack of alternatives among the actual, you know, people.

There's no party here for me to vote for that reflects my politics, but voting here is always tactical, for a variety of unfortunate constitutional reasons. It's not clear to me, though, that the situation is significantly different in the UK or Canada. You can go for the CP in Ontario, but they don't have any seats in anything, so does it get you anywhere? It's even worse in the UK.
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