Go home Quebec, you're drunk

[sabotabby]

It's a sad and strange day when I agree with anything that comes out of Jason Kenney's mouth, but broken clocks, twice a day, etc. Quebec's proposed charter of values that will ban public servants from wearing any religious symbol (but really we mean Muslim religious symbols) is so completely batshit insane that I'm amazed it got this far.

I wonder what even constitutes a religious symbol. I mean, I used to wear ankhs and pentacles and inverted crosses, not out of any religious conviction but because I was Goth As Fuck. In Montreal, would a Habs jersey count? I mean, it's really unclear. Also racist. And loopy.

There is a certain type of New Atheism that's essentially a continuation of White Man's Burden by other means. This is its exemplar.

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[karinmollberg.livejournal.com]

Beards be banned as religious symbols; hipster public servants will be force-shaved, I take it?

This New Atheism thing appears to be international, it's a disturbing trend I've seen even in some of my supposedly progressive friends yup: here in France too. I like to annoy them on days when annoyed by the reversed racism and sexism I encounter daily as an exolotl from the far North and lately had the pleasure to inform one stern and proud Atheist on how I fought to be taken up into Christianity as a teen.
He had been going on about how he fought to be de-baptized which included complicated Kafkaesque procedurals for years and I said, it was hard enough getting water on my head in the totally social-democratic lutheran church of Sweden as an atheist parent´s child.
His jaw fell, he had supposed applause from fellow Atheists for his hateful speech. Me, I´ll die a Sceptic, I have since left the Evangelical and serious converting thoughts about the Catholic church behind, but/because... I don´t like sheepish behaviour. Or as an Lj-friend said: I was very pious as a child but I left when I noticed the Chruch was full of assholes.

What I mostly dislike, is the arrogance involved, how most Atheists I met always tend to treat others as if they knew nothing. One isn´t necessarily a Creationist for not bowing to their pre-fabricated opinions, either.

Also, Atheist Conversation is so limited, all they ever talk about is God.

[sabotabby]

Beards be banned as religious symbols; hipster public servants will be force-shaved, I take it?

Don't make me start to support this ban! (I kid, I like beards. Moustaches, OTOH...)

What I mostly dislike, is the arrogance involved, how most Atheists I met always tend to treat others as if they knew nothing. One isn´t necessarily a Creationist for not bowing to their pre-fabricated opinions, either.

It reminds me a lot of evangelical Christians who believe that people who aren't evangelical Christians have never heard of Jesus.

I always feel like, because I was raised atheist (we celebrated some Jewish cultural traditions, but I was never told that God was a real thing) I'm far less militant about it than atheists who were once religious. I have no zeal to convert anyone to my beliefs, as long as they don't piss me off by trying to convert me. I do get really embarrassed at the New Atheists, who are loudmouths and just as bad as any other fanatics.

[marlowe1.livejournal.com]

Did you see the South Park episode slamming on Richard Dawkins? It was pretty awesome.

Of course, I just love the fact that Dawkins is trying to push the belief that religion is the source of all assholes and then sets about disproving it with every damn thing he says.

[sabotabby]

I don't watch South Park, but I might have to watch that one.

Dawkins enrages me. I understand how reasonable religious people feel about the fundies taking up all the airspace.