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Hey, a bunch of you went and saw it and are now posting reviews. Here’s mine.

As you might recall, I really loved the graphic novel. And as you also probably know, the book's author, Alan Moore, wanted nothing to do with it after post-production. There's a good reason for it, as the movie, while keeping the shell of the story, guts much of its nuance and meaning. It's an entertaining action movie, like The Matrix, but it manages to be more of a comic book than the comic book itself.



For those of you who haven’t seen or read it, the gist goes something like this: England goes fascist. V, a survivor of a concentration camp, horribly disfigured and insane from Mengele-esque experiments and a fire, dons a Guy Fawkes mask and embarks on a mission to blow shit up for great justice (and track down the high-ranking politicians, doctors, and media figures who were responsible for torturing him). Along the way he meets a young woman, Evey, who becomes drawn into his plan to free England by means of big explosions.

In the book, V is a Kropotkin-quoting anarchist who, while mad, follows a rather coherent political line. He’s certainly pursuing vengeance, but not blindly, and not without a larger vision. The movie obliterates that vision, substituting a vague “freedom” for “anarchy,” and by simplifying the villainous government, turns V’s struggle from a fight against the State to a parable of liberal democracy versus the Bush Administration. And for good measure, the script throws in a conspiracy theory.

To understand what’s wrong with the movie, we need to look at the difference between a political theory and a conspiracy theory. A political theory identifies real structures and examines how they can be changed, who can change them, and how a better system would function. Any political theory worth its salt provides some sort of action plan for its adherents.

The narrative of the conspiracy theory story, in contrast, is fundamentally disempowering, because it relies entirely on cryptic, unbeatable forces. In a conspiracy story, the Bad Government is hiding a Big Secret from The People. Only a select few, rebellious individuals know the Big Secret, but The Masses would be outraged if they learned it. It’s the duty of the rebel individual to somehow broadcast The Truth to The Masses, whereupon they will rise up in huge numbers against the Bad Government. The ideas that The Masses may prefer to cling to their illusions and security, or that even a Good Government can do Bad Things, is never a consideration, which is why so many conspiracy theorists can still cling to nationalist and capitalist notions (c.f., Rense, Pat Buchanan.)

A reviewer at some point commented that the movie is about Bush's America, transplanted to a futuristic England. In a sense—although the reviewer had clearly not read the book, which is set in England and written well before Bush's election—this is quite true. In Moore's dystopia, it isn't nefarious elements within the Conservative (read Republican) Party that form the dictatorship, but the Labour Party. The difference is significant, because Moore's V doesn't just struggle against a Really Bad Government, but against the idea of a State itself.

This is the theme that the Wachowski brothers fail to grasp, because they're conspiracy theorists, not political thinkers. Instead of Moore's subtle erosion of democracy, combined with apathy on the part of the populace, we have a new and utterly insulting subplot. The Norsefire (fascist) Party, composed of Conservative up-and-comers, engineer a virus that kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people, blame it on Muslim terrorists, and use it as an excuse to crack down on civil liberties. (If you're thinking "Bush planned 9-11!", you're on the right track.) V's violence is then utterly excusable, because the government is a Nazi government, the people are all against them, and they're just waiting for a hero to come along and show them the way.

In Moore's book, there's no conspiracy besides the cover-up surrounding the Larkhill Resettlement Camp. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy, because The People collude in their own oppression and accept a certain degree of authoritarianism as necessary for their own protection—in this sense, it’s far closer to Bush’s America than the Americanized movie version. They don't wait anxiously by the TV for V to save them.

Few people besides the most ardent pacifists would deny an oppressed people the right to violently resist. By providing the excuse of the virus to show just how bad the Norsefire government is—not just for queers and Muslims, but for white, middle-class citizens with no political leanings whatsoever—V can be de-politicized and stand for anything. Imagery that reassures us that Norsefire=Republicans aside, this struggle could just as easily be that of the U.S. army “liberating” the people of Iraq from an evil dictatorship.

Another difference, which feeds into de-politicization, is class. Because this is a film about America, where one can't use the C-word, the class struggle themes in the book are completely eliminated. (We're allowed to talk about oppression of queers and Muslims, but only in the most liberal sense—they are being persecuted because "they're different.") Moore's Evey is a factory worker turned would-be prostitute. In the movie, she's a journalist, the truth-seeking hero of every liberal narrative. Her parents are still political activists, but not because of leftist sympathies—their activism is justified only after they've lost a son to the evil government-engineered virus. When Movie-Evey escapes from V, Gordon, the man who shelters her, is not a petty criminal who gets killed by slightly meaner petty criminals because the world is a dangerous place, but rather a popular TV-show host who meets a tragic and heroic death resisting the government.

The book ends with uncertainty. We don’t know whether V’s propaganda-by-the-deed tactics were effective; they might be, and Evey, donning the Guy Fawkes mask in order to continue the struggle for as long as it takes, is certainly a spark of hope. That fantastic final image of Finch, wondering if his entire life has been a waste, wandering off into the countryside, is gone. (Finch is utterly sanitized in the movie. Sigh.)

By contrast, there is something reassuring in the movie that’s absent from the book. In a bizarre cinematic decision, Evey gets voiceovers at the beginning and the end of the movie, first to give away the ending (V dies), and then to assure us that after that night, the world changed forever—and presumably for the better. We know that the hero’s violence, which somehow managed to not kill any innocent people, was justified. There’s no way things could possibly get any worse, because nothing is worse than Nazis, even a spot of chaos.

The movie did a few things well: It was pretty, perfectly cast (even in an ironic way, since pro-torture Natalie Portman gets tortured in it), mostly well-acted, and Parliament blows up good. If I hadn’t read the book, I’d highly recommend it. Instead, do yourself a favour and read Moore's graphic novel if you already haven't.

England prevails!
It looks like I may be away from LJ for a few days, depending on how Real Life goes. See you on the other side.
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Date: 2006-03-19 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ocicat-bengals.livejournal.com
>England prevails!

Oh noooooooooo.....
Would that be the English people, or the government?
The former okay, the later can get stuffed.
I think I'll read the graphic novel before I take a shot at the movie because the book sounds far better than the glossed over flick.
But mainly, because it takes us months because we finally get it together enough to make plans to go to a film. I'm finally watching the Constant Gardener on DVD.

Date: 2006-03-19 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tmcm.livejournal.com
I've noticed that most 'anti-establishment' movies and anti-corporate movies focus on the evil of an individual and the evil of the system. I think you hit the nail on the head when you point out that Moore was focusing on the system while the movie focuses on the evils of individual conspirators.

Saw your review on [livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid's site and added you. Hope that's ok.

Date: 2006-03-19 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tmcm.livejournal.com
meant to say 'focus on the evil of an individual rather than the evil of the system.'

sorry.

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Date: 2006-03-19 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groovitude.livejournal.com
I read this film would suck in a major way. Wachowski brothers have a tendency to get caught up in stuffing the film with big ideas and forget about what their audience expects, which is thematic fidelity in this case. In The Matrix 2 and 3 they left the audience behind to dwell on nonsense postmodern theories lifted from Cornel West and company. It's exactly the opposite of how a movie should talk about ideas.

I liked your distinction between movies that revolve around a conspiracy theory and a political theory. Although I know a lot of conspiracy theory films, I don't know many films about a political theory...well, there is The Fountainhead. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0041386/)

Date: 2006-03-19 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dobrovolets.livejournal.com
Your paragraphs on the difference between a political theory and a conspiracy theory are among the best I've read on that topic.
pro-torture Natalie Portman

Since I don't follow celebrity gossip, even when the celebrities are jabbering about politics, care to explain?

Date: 2006-03-19 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oblomova.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was wondering about that one, too.

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Date: 2006-03-19 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lopukhov.livejournal.com
I only read halfway through the graphic novel, but I wasn't paying attention enough that it is indeed Guy Fawkes that he's wearing on his face!

Does the film have Eyes, Ears, Mouth, etc too? Aren't they part of "big government" in the book? Okay I'll be quiet and continue reading now.

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Date: 2006-03-19 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] locustinferno.livejournal.com
I haven't read the graphic novel, so I can't do a comparison of the merits and demerits of both the movie and novel. Going by what I've heard, I'd love the novel much more so than the movie. And I enjoyed the movie.





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Date: 2006-03-19 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com
Exelent review. I haven't read the novel or seen the film but I've heard enough to grasp loosely what's about. I'll try and checkout the graphic novel.

Date: 2006-03-19 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com
Also, I have to add that here in America (this wouldn't suprise you though) that even the sanitized for mass consumption movie version has sparked debate from the cries of "but V's a terrorist, not a hero!" to questions "when is violence justified?" Pretty funny stuff.

Date: 2006-03-19 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realcdaae.livejournal.com
I loved the film, but I entirely agree with your criticism of it, too. Anything made by Hollywood is going to be sanitized, in exactly that way. Anarchy goes against the nature of Hollywood, after all.

Hopefully anyone taken with the movie will now read the book!

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Date: 2006-03-19 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herkyjerkydance.livejournal.com
I'm unsurprised at what they did with the story, but I can't say I wasn't expecting it. I was actually thinking they'd do something much worse, so in a way I'm rather relieved. I think I'll end up seeing the film anyway, just to see how they translated the artwork into movie form.

Date: 2006-03-19 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfma.livejournal.com
Hi, got this link from several people on my flist.

There's another thing in the book that I'm sure wasn't brought up in the movie: Norsefire was made up of corporations.

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Date: 2006-03-19 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I'm seeing the movie tonight but I always had mixed feelings about the comic. Will write about it when my tendonitis is better.

Date: 2006-03-19 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nom-de-grr.livejournal.com
The entire movie, I kept thinking "V is the Weather Underground, and just as stupid and ineffectual as a cadre of drugged-up American Maoist utopians". At least if this movie were anything like the real world, he would have been ineffectual.

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Date: 2006-03-19 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfma.livejournal.com
Hmm...just one corporation. Interesting choice.

I am not surprised at the fact that they left out the whole class struggle idea, although it is a major omission, IMO.

Love your Guy Fawkes icon, btw.

Date: 2006-03-20 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fengi.livejournal.com
This reminds me of a class I took in the history of Faust in culture - I discovered the prof (on loan from Oxford) had never read The Devil and Daniel Webster. So I gave it to him and he was - amused, to say the least, about how it doesn't so much invert Faust as completely misunderstand it from a agrarian, materialistic revivalist POV. Then I sat through the American remake of Bedazzled which, besides being horrible, was scene by scene a virtual thesis on the ways American and European pop philosophy does not coincide. So it's no surprise that two American guys have this offkey view of V. It's a long tradition of trying to pull entertaining mythology across the pond and ending up with something entertaining but incoherent - or even more incoherent than the original if one takes into account [livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid's point about idealization.

I noticed the same thing about From Hell - there was a lot of super earnest effort behind that terrible film (they got the casting right) including an understanding about class (and the makers of Menace II Society should be able to grasp that) but there was still a massive disconnect, which in that case I think was between American and British comic book narrative styles which then meant The Hughes Brothers couldn't condense the narrative into something which made sense.

By the same token, I always found the books where Moore or Gainman or any of the Brit comic writers take on America to have varying degrees of disconnect as well, although they are slightly better at hiding what they don't understand by playing off the fantasy.

Probably the one person who can work both sides of the pond at the moment is Terry Gilliam. I find the allegories in Brazil have grown in potency over the years, to the point it seems almost prescient.

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Date: 2006-03-20 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] springheel-jack.livejournal.com
Natalie Portman is pro-torture?

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Date: 2006-03-20 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-rhythm.livejournal.com
All hail you whoever you are!

These were my thoughts, found elsewhere, on the subject of the comic book/ movie.
http://community.livejournal.com/vendetta_today/1519.html?thread=7407#t7407

http://kev-bot.livejournal.com/602591.html?thread=4796895#t4796895

I like the movie, but it really is a dumbed down version. There is a difference between "Such and such government is evil" and "Governments are wrong, period."

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Date: 2006-03-20 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crudocrust.livejournal.com
Where does he quote Kropotkin in the book? I read it, and can't find it.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coridan.livejournal.com
I honestly don't think that Portman has thought too deeply about her own politics to go beyond that. At best, she's an entertainment industry collaborator who is not aware of her collaboration.

Date: 2006-03-20 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syndicalist.livejournal.com
Maybe V follows more of a "coherent line" in the comic book, but isn't the coherence more one of quoting Kropotkin on the one hand while being more of a "propaganda by the deed" type of "anarchist" who waxes poetic quite often about "chaos," etc.

In other words, not like Korpotkin at all.

Haven't seen the movie but am going to very soon.

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Date: 2006-03-20 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pretzelsalt.livejournal.com
I am so happy to have you on my list.

Date: 2006-03-21 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perich.livejournal.com
Linked here via [livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid.

Not sure I agree with your politics as a whole, but this:

In Moore's book, there's no conspiracy besides the cover-up surrounding the Larkhill Resettlement Camp. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy, because The People collude in their own oppression and accept a certain degree of authoritarianism as necessary for their own protection—in this sense, it’s far closer to Bush’s America than the Americanized movie version. They don't wait anxiously by the TV for V to save them.

... rang very true for me.

I didn't find the movie "challenging" or "uncompromising" because the Wachowski's villains are clearly villains. There's no challenge in saying that evil, disease-sowing fascists should be taken out of power.

There's plenty of challenge in V telling Evey "happiness is a prison," though, as he does in the book alone. This idea is at the same time fundamentally insane (does this mean V is anti-happiness?) and fundamentally true. Now that's challenging.

Date: 2006-03-22 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghostwes.livejournal.com
Good review. I walked out of the film with some of the same concerns as you, though as a long-time fan of Moore, I also managed to enjoy it. It was nice to finally see a film based on his work that wasn't total shite, at least.

I thought the movie failed to present the government as being evil in a convincing way. In the book, there isn't much in the way of overt fascist symbolism... because there didn't really need to be. The narrative itself provided enough examples of the evil of the government, even if many characters in the book were themselves seemingly oblivious.

In the film, however, they relied on cheap gimmicky Manichean Evil-with-a-capital-E and it just didn't work for me. The initial rape scene with Evey just seemed too contrived and obvious, as well as happening before we really get a sense of the type of government it was. In other words, show me don't tell me.

It seems to be doing well enough in the box office. I wonder if that means we'll finally get a film version of Watchmen. As much as I love that book, I really hope not...

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Date: 2006-03-23 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenlight.livejournal.com
By contrast, there is something reassuring in the movie that’s absent from the book.

What's funny is that was exactly what I expected.

Date: 2006-03-24 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jk-fabiani.livejournal.com
Thanks for the review. I am now intrigued in both the comic and the movie.

Hope your vibrating well.

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Date: 2006-03-25 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] felicks.livejournal.com
I finally saw it. Bleh. I thought it was pretty aweful.
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