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I can't find my "no pigdogs" graphic to accompany this post. :( :( :(



[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: I am a smart fluffy kittenbunny. [bats eyelashes]
[livejournal.com profile] sabotabby: Is a kittenbunny the opposite of a pigdog?
[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: Probably not.
Because a kittenbunny is inherently fluffy and useless, and therefore not really a useful part of the collective.
Probably something like a llamachicken is the opposite of a pigdog.
[livejournal.com profile] sabotabby: I can do another poll.
[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: i was thinking this would be a good subject for a poll.
[livejournal.com profile] sabotabby: Yes. We need some options.
[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: OK: kittenbunny, llamachicken, turkeysheep...
[livejournal.com profile] sabotabby: A turkeysheep would be the ugliest animal ever.
[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: But very useful, although too damn' stupid for words.
Something useful, pack-oriented, and smart...hmmm....
[livejournal.com profile] sabotabby: A useful idiot, as Lenin would have it.
[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: Also attractive.
[livejournal.com profile] sabotabby: See, a pigdog would actually be a useful and smart animal.
How about a pandawombat.
[livejournal.com profile] zingerella: YAY!


[During a discussion of good message boards...]

The Iron Fist of Consensus-Building says:
   RevLeft is fun, but most people on it are fucking morons.

35th anniversary of CPC(M-L)! Long live Marxism-Leninism! Long live the Party! says:
   80% of them are anti-Stalin
   and then 50% of those are idiots
   the MIM msg board is good

The Iron Fist of Consensus-Building says:
   I couldn't deal with the spelling.
   No offense.

35th anniversary of CPC(M-L)! Long live Marxism-Leninism! Long live the Party! says:
   it'$ OKKK. you're ju$t the $ociali$t white man'$ burden.

[Poll #699043]
EDIT: OMG!

Date: 2006-03-27 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] englishpigdog.livejournal.com
opposite of dog is cat, that's a no-brainer.

I think the opposite of a pig is a cow.

Cowcat

Date: 2006-03-27 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seaya.livejournal.com
Hahahaha.

TBK rises from the grave and nuzzles you for that one :).

Date: 2006-03-27 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zingerella.livejournal.com
I am not so sure that the opposite of a pig would be a cow. How do you figure?

Cows = domesticated ruminant mammals
Pigs = domesticated omnivorous mammals

Cows grow up slowly.
Pigs grow up quickly.

Cows bred for food and milk.
Pigs bred for food, and sometimes as pets.

Cows smell bad.
Pigs smell bad.

Cows are big.
Pigs are big.

I'm just not entirely convinced, though I'm prepared to admit that I can't come up with a more opposite animal. Maybe a chinchilla?

Cowchilla?

Date: 2006-03-27 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teapolitik.livejournal.com
Cows will kill you if given the opportunity.
Pigs will kill you even if they don't have the opportunity.
Genius.

Anyway, I vote squidcat. Creatures of the sea or disturbingly absent from this discussion so far.

There's also the chance that octopus is the opposite of pig, but...

Date: 2006-03-27 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teapolitik.livejournal.com
Let's see...

Sexist squidcat. Fascist squidcat. [livejournal.com profile] englishsquidcat.

Date: 2006-03-28 03:31 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (ICON!)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
OMG I want one!

Date: 2006-03-27 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jk-fabiani.livejournal.com
The opposite of a pig is a hippie.

Date: 2006-03-27 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jk-fabiani.livejournal.com
Yeah. I've liked some pigs even. Go figure.

Date: 2006-03-27 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
Well, I think the opposite of a dirty pig is a tidy raccoon. Hence "raccatt."

But if you want to argue that pigs are lazy, you could go with bees or beavers who, in contrast to capitalist pigs, are collectivist. Hence paddle-tailed cats or bumble cats. However, whether cats are collectivist or industrious remains problematic.

Making a Raccatt

Date: 2006-03-27 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
A raccatt would be ridiculously fastidious.

Re: Making a Raccatt

Date: 2006-03-27 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zingerella.livejournal.com
Sounds like Luna when she's on the 'nip, really.

Re: Making a Raccatt

Date: 2006-03-27 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
> But it doesn't have the ring of "bumblecat."

How about a "masked raccatt," which is admittedly redundant?

Masked raccatts would, of course, have big, fluffy tails and wiggle their rears when they walk. They would also have a penchant for dumpster diving, overturning trash cans, fighting on roofs and washing corn before they eat it.

Re: Making a Raccatt

Date: 2006-03-27 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
I think that's why Vivian on The Young Ones had a raccatt named, "Special Patrol Group."

Re: Making a Raccatt

Date: 2006-03-27 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
> They would also have a penchant for dumpster diving, overturning trash cans, fighting on roofs ...

Hence, the origin of the bastardized phrase, "making a racket." Indeed, the first tennis rackets were made of masked raccatt gut, which is why they were originally called "raccatt bats" (later shortened to just "rackets").

Re: Making a Raccatt

Date: 2006-03-27 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
It was an important part of Canada's early economy. I'm surprised you didn't already know it.

Date: 2006-03-27 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
I will forever regret not seeing Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room with you in Chicago last summer. When I think of the repeated in-person squees I missed out on ...

In addition to being an excellent documentary, it had the greatest soundtrack of any documentary ever! It had ...

not one ...

not two ...

not three ...

But FOUR Tom Waits songs in it. It opened with "What's He Building in There?" ("... We have a right to know.") followed shortly by "Straight to the Top" (Vegas Version). Later we heard "Temptation" and the credits closed with "God's Away on Business" ("For a buck / For a buck ... The ship is sinking / The ship is sinking ..."). In retrospect, I'm quite surprised they didn't play "Step Right Up."

The soundtrack was awesome overall. It included Billie Holliday's "God Bless the Child," the Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of These)" and (ironically) Oingo Boingo's "There's Nothing Wrong With Capitalism."

Date: 2006-03-27 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvmatucha.livejournal.com
I like the ide aof a Pandawombat, but it really doesn't sound like the opposite of a Pigdog, really!

Date: 2006-03-27 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
There seem to be a great many duckats around.

Date: 2006-03-27 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovableatheist.livejournal.com
there's an MIM message board? That's awesome!

That picture of the cowcat made my day.

Date: 2006-03-27 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roter-terror.livejournal.com
The Maoist message board I read was the most depressing thing ever.

"United $nake$ of Amerikka imperialist wage-laborer kings oppress anti-imperialist third world state capitalists."

etc.

novel vocabularisms

Date: 2006-03-27 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com
OK. So I tried to dredge up my Levi-Straussian structuralist anthropology on the ride home, and came out with a thoroughly reasoned argument I can no longer recall in detail because I am somewhat intoxicated. Ahem.

Anyway, my primary candidate was "cactushummingbird", pronounced with an "sh" sound. The secondary is "lichenhummingbird", once I realized I forgot to consider the hot-dry binary axis. (Pronounced with an "nh!" sound).

It's definitely not as mellifuous and graceful or symmetrical and concise as "pigdog", but that in itself is intentional, another couple axes of opposition.

Down with pigdog oppressors!
Up with Comrade Cactushummingbirds!

Re: novel vocabularisms

Date: 2006-03-28 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com
It's both a carrot and a stick! The most powerful motivator known to the wage-slave goat.

Date: 2006-03-28 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownfist.livejournal.com
Guess what I scanned for your viewing pleasure. I scanned "The Letter". I am just waiting for my brother to upload it so that I can put it up on my blog.

Date: 2006-03-28 03:35 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
[livejournal.com profile] jetta_the_dog is a pigwombat. Check her out (although it's harder to tell from photos cos there is less snuffling and rootling).

Date: 2006-03-28 03:14 pm (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
She's a demon dog. And a wombatpig.

Date: 2006-03-28 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownfist.livejournal.com
The worst part of this is that I probably know who 35th anniversary of CPC(M-L)! Long live Marxism-Leninism! Long live the Party! is. Please tell me he was joking! The MIM board is good? That is like saying Charles Manson was a great musician, a terrible terrible joke gone wrong!

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