Date: 2008-10-14 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arianadii.livejournal.com
Hah! I love this. So true. :/

We're screwed '08

Date: 2008-10-15 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srk1.livejournal.com
I've been following this election a bit. What riding do you live in?

Date: 2008-10-15 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srk1.livejournal.com
Oh, I quite like Jack Layton. There aren't any politicians of his calibre on the British left (which doesn't include the Labour government).

Date: 2008-10-15 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srk1.livejournal.com
That's interesting. I watched the English language debate and his rhetoric was much more left-wing than anything a senior politician on the British left would say, perhaps with the exception of the SNP or the ex London mayor Ken Livingstone.

Date: 2008-10-15 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frandroid.livejournal.com
I think Layton can't take much principled stances when there is no strong movement on the left to support him. You could argue that it's the NDP's job to nurture such a movement, but really, electoral politics mostly follows civil society, so really you need a strong and visible movement to support the political left...

Date: 2008-10-15 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esizzle.livejournal.com
ooooh guaranteed NDP? did u vote-swap on facebook?

Date: 2008-10-15 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culpster.livejournal.com
I bet if they did get in it would be kind of like Harper anyway - but different, you know?

Anyway. Sigh. On to the next thing.

Date: 2008-10-15 02:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-10-15 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esizzle.livejournal.com
dont blame me they wouldn't let me vote :(

Date: 2008-10-15 05:28 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-10-15 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wlach.livejournal.com
It's not inspiring, is it? I take some bitter consolation that the imminent economic meltdown (and the new government's complete inability to deal with it) will destroy the Conservative party as we know it within one year. Steven Harper will be the new Herbert Hoover.

What did you think of the Green Party this election?

Date: 2008-10-15 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wlach.livejournal.com
Heh, I voted Green (even volunteered a bit for them), mainly because I felt they were the only party which acknowledged peak oil and general limits to growth in a serious way. That and the fact that I found Layton's rhetoric to be ridiculously corny and hackneyed this time. I share your misgivings about some of their right-leaning economic policies, but that's less important to me than simply understanding the fundamental crisis of our time.

What would it take to have a party which really gets both social justice and ecology on a deep level?

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