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It seems that my little rant about the accessibility fail at the AGO has garnered some attention. It was apparently discussed at a conference (that I'd heard about through other means, and wanted to attend because it looked amazing) and then mentioned in the Ottawa Citizen!
"I'm so thankful that they put that out into the world, and that they put it in writing," said Syrus Marcus Ware, the program co-ordinator for youth at AGO.

She [sic] said the gallery has gone through a massive re-thinking of its existence, beginning as the new design was being planned, and has poured its efforts into trying to serve a wider population. This includes free nights for people who can't afford to pay admission, and better access for disabled visitors.

But she [sic] said there are always staff who feel defensive and resist change. The outside criticism, she [sic] said, "gave us a great push."

You guys. You guys. They are actually doing something about this, maybe. Words effecting concrete change that makes people's lives better and such.

Thanks a million to [livejournal.com profile] writer_grrrrl for passing said post around to the right people and for sending me the article.

EDIT: It is a lot dismaying to have learned that the article on accessibility!fail committed gender!fail. We have such a long way to go.

Date: 2009-10-06 08:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flummoxicated.livejournal.com
That is way cool. You made a difference!

Date: 2009-10-06 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] funnel101.livejournal.com
Yay! :) (And yay to you for writing about it in the first place.)

Date: 2009-10-06 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] springheel-jack.livejournal.com
Awesome.

I also found the cute little mistakes in the article funny. Your blog is "called" "frank gehry hates disabled people."

But there's an upside. His clipping service will probably forward it to him.

You know, I was once talking to a guy who helped design nuclear subs for the navy back in the day. Now, on a nuclear sub, they don't call it architecture, but clearly the way the space is designed must be functional, and that's a challenge because space is tight. If two knobs collide in their normal range of motion, that's right out. If people going to their duty stations can't get by each other at a hatch, that's out.

So they would build a mockup of all the sub's key areas in wood to see if it worked. Moving control levers and everything.

This is before CAD, obviously. But that makes one wonder - in THIS day and age, can't they be bothered to model their space to see if it _works_? Like Koolhhaaaaaaaas' new library in Seattle. Some cool ideas there. Did anyone test them to see if they worked, at any scale, before building them? No? OH MY GOD.

Everyone says postmodernism destroyed architecture. Or Modernism or some other 'ism'. But what really destroyed it is the cult of the celebrity architect, who must have a sculptural 'look' to their buildings, a brand, and fuck whether the space works for its users or not. What matters is whether the plan is cool enough to get the commission and the exterior interesting enough to show up on postcards.

IM Pei is another one whose museum designs are suspect, to me. His galleries are usually plain rectangular rooms, but all the Grand Spaces contain at least one central staircase whose steps are canted at least thirty degrees out of the frontal plane of the user's body. I have to close my eyes when I'm climbing them or I feel like I'll fall. Steps that aren't even accessible to completely able-bodied people! Now that's a feat.

They look cool, though.

Date: 2009-10-06 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] springheel-jack.livejournal.com
I bet it seemed like a good idea at the time - a symptom of this drive for coolness and novelty. But that requires you to reject the accumulated experience of generations. Stairs aren't made perpendicular to the side rails for no reason. Roofs in rainy/snowy climates aren't gabled for no reason. Library stacks aren't arranged in parallel ranks in big rooms, rather than being mounted to the central pillar of a crazy spiral, for NO REASON, REM.

Date: 2009-10-07 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
Library stacks aren't arranged in parallel ranks in big rooms, rather than being mounted to the central pillar of a crazy spiral

Have you ever seen a picture of the Central library's first floor? There are, like, ALMOST NO BOOKS in there. A few scattered sad little shelves. LOTS of floor space, huge skylights. It's whack. It would make a great studio or art gallery or something. Not a library.

Date: 2009-10-07 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
Oh my God, the new Seattle Central library fucking sucks, and everyone I know creams over it. 'So avant-garde! So modern! So colorful!' They built it for the goddamned tourists. So yeah, it's a great tourist attraction, but an utter FAIL as an actual LIBRARY, you ask me. ....meanwhile, the non-touristy libraries are still enduring budget cuts and weeks of closures.

Date: 2009-10-07 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roter-terror.livejournal.com
Apparently the main San Francisco library built about a decade ago was also a major debacle. "The architects won" and the librarians and public got a library with so little room for books that hundreds of thousands (if not more) were apparently discarded, with some supposedly going straight to the landfill.

Bastard god damn concrete-artists.

Date: 2009-10-08 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turandot.livejournal.com
I've only visited that library once (not a tourist, just haven't gotten a chance to go again yet), and while I can see your point of view, I would still call it a mixed bag.

Some features are obviously touristy, yes. I was bothered by the fact that stacks were only fully visible on one floor, and while the windows on the top floor are very attractive architecturally, I wouldn't visit a library to get a view of the skyline in general, being just there for the books. There are better free and open spaces to get a spectacular view in Seattle anyway (Kerry Park comes to mind).

But the children's library wing (and here a caveat: I used to be a teacher, so I was mostly interested in seeing that) was great: wide spaces, very accessible, very inviting. It was probably the first full scale children section of a central public library (and I have visited about 3 or 4 in different parts of the country, btw) that I could see kids loving and never wanting to leave it. It's too bad that the ideas behind it were not used as a model for the rest of the building. :(

Date: 2009-10-07 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marydell.livejournal.com
Oh god, Pei steps are the worst. My university art museum is a Pei building and it's pretty, but trying to run up the stairs to get to your class on time is a recipe for DEATH.

Date: 2009-10-06 09:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-06 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shelestel.livejournal.com
Great, now the crippled will have the option of being as pretentious and snobbish as the rest of us.

Date: 2009-10-07 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] courtly.livejournal.com
Smirkage. :)

Date: 2009-10-06 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realcdaae.livejournal.com
Great rant, and great response/result. Yay you!

Date: 2009-10-06 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krinndnz.livejournal.com
Awesome! Go Sabo!

Date: 2009-10-06 10:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bcholmes.livejournal.com
It's weird, for some reason, to hear you described as "anonymous". I mean, you have a clear net name and presence. There's nothing anonymous about that.

Date: 2009-10-06 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
This is so very cool. I'm glad.

Date: 2009-10-06 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] writer-grrrrl.livejournal.com
Hooray!

P.S. -- my conference organizer friend tells me that the reporter was a jerk and refused to use Syrus' pronoun of choice, which is "he."

But go, Sabo, go! I wouldn't be surprised if Gehry ends up reading your post soon enough. It is a small, small world ...

Date: 2009-10-07 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-flabulous.livejournal.com
Ya, Syrus is extremely cool (perhaps I'm biased, as he is a best friend). I think I'd also mentioned your post to him in one of our discussions about his workplace...hilarious and wonderful to see it mentioned in the paper (and argh to that douchebag reporter!).

Date: 2009-10-07 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-flabulous.livejournal.com
Yep, totally.

Date: 2009-10-06 11:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-06 11:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
That is so awesome!

Date: 2009-10-06 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-se-dit-tu.livejournal.com
That's awesome! Go Miss Tabby!

Date: 2009-10-06 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frippy.livejournal.com
I liked that post because it wasn't just the usual griping about overrated starchitects making fugly or counterintuitive buildings but it showed what happens when people actually try to make use of a modern public building, only to discover that a portion of the public is unable to use it due to the particulars of its design. I'm glad to see it was read by someone not as a rant but as an architectural bug report.

Date: 2009-10-07 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culpster.livejournal.com
You rock

Date: 2009-10-07 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
Go Action!Sabs! You rock!

Date: 2009-10-07 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roter-terror.livejournal.com
Frank Gehry Hates Disabled People is totally my favorite blog.

Date: 2009-10-07 08:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-07 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pofflewomp.livejournal.com
WOW!!!!!
Something actually made a change for good in the world!!!
You are ever restoring my faith, countering my twisted bitterness with your shining example of courageous ummm, lost for words, but I am so pleased, hooray! I mean, hooray, as I was feeling nowt is worth doing owt about, and now I feel like hooray maybe doing things can help make a difference.

Date: 2009-10-07 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trias-cube.livejournal.com
That's really wonderful that you made an impact. Way to go!

Date: 2009-10-07 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auralarua.livejournal.com
Awesomeeee

Date: 2009-10-09 02:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, I hope Gehry reads it! It probably be too much to ask that he actually consider it, but I hope he at least reads it.

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