Kermit vs. Oscar

Turns out the livestream of the Kermit vs. Oscar debate is $15, because there is nothing that Peterson will not shamelessly monetize. Obviously I am unwilling to pay this (I wouldn't be if the filthy lucre wasn't going to Peterson, but it is). Unless something changes in the next hour and a half, I hope you're all cool with me holding off on the lulzy commentary until tomorrow when the torrents go up and watching the season finale of Disco instead.

Muppet debate, take 2, part 1

Found a totally legal stream. No sound so far. No one on stage either, but it looks legit. Apparently there is no sound on the paid one yet either.

The audience looks about half empty. I guess not that many people wanted to pay $500 for a ticket? There's, unfortunately, a live chat as well, and it is full of fascists, tankies, and people just typing "sniff" over and over again.

Now faded to a galaxy thing with an ominous silhouette.

SOUND!!!!!

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Muppet debate, part 2

APPLAUSE! The Muppets have arrived! Announcer announces that there is to be no recording or heckling.

Stephen Blackwood is the moderator, says some self-congratulatory shit, and then welcomes the Muppets.

Lobster in a suit, Oscar looking slovenly as always in a polo shirt and pants that don't reach his shoes.

Oh shut up Stephen, this is not "real thinking about hard questions" this is mud wrestling.

IDEOLOGY! *takes a shot*

Stephen just claimed that neither are primarily political thinkers. Broken clocks, etc.

"Surprising agreement on deep questions" yes they both have cryptofascist leanings.

"Let's hear it for psychoanalysis!" Audience cheers.

I am pretty sure no one has ever called Zizek "dazzling" in his life until now. Zizek facepalms, then yawns, then claps for himself.

Audience is overwhelmingly Peterson fanboys, judging by the cheers.

OH GOD PETERSON IS GOING TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. He's doing a Thinker pose.

There is far too much San Pellegrino and not enough coke on this table.

EACH OF THEM GETS TO MAKE A 30 MIN OPENING STATEMENT oh god. Then each has 10 min to reply. Then there's 45 minutes of fanboys asking questions. It's going to be a loooong night.

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Muppet debate, part 3

IT'S SLAVOJ TIME

Zizek starts by talking about China's economic success.

Zizek you are using big words Peterson will not understand this.

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Muppet debate, part 4

Peterson's reply.

ZIZEK IS HAAAAAARD I don't know how to respond.

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Zizek:

Zizek you have never tried to be as short as possible.

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( rebuttals )

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Conclusion: That was really bad. Like funny ha-ha bad, but also just bad-bad. Despite the pretence of talking about Weighty, Important Subjects, there was really none of that, because you need the other party to at least have the same reference points, and Peterson is just not that well educated. Also because Zizek's a dick and has gone red-brown, making him a shit spokesman for contemporary Marxism. It was like a 4chan cartoon come to life.

I guess the best thing that came out of it was that some of Peterson's fanboys, having seen their idol soundly humiliated, might now flock to Zizek, whose ideology, though demented, is substantially less harmful.

Save yourself some suffering and watch the toilet speech again:

"Zizek on toilets" (Watch on YouTube)