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A quick review, 'cause I have a long day tomorrow.

I...didn't hate it? I kind of thought I would. I didn't think it was actually a good Star Trek movie, but as a summer blockbuster with exploding spaceships, it was highly entertaining. I don't think a good Star Trek movie is actually commercially viable, and it also requires a good series, which we don't have at the moment. (What I wouldn't do for a DS9 movie, but that's never gonna happen.)

The puzzling thing about JJ Abrams' reboot is how fundamentally embarrassed it seems to be about the source material. Sure, there are winks and callbacks to TOS, but if you want an indication of what I'm talking about, calculate the actual on-screen time any of the characters are in the iconic uniforms. (Well, except for Uhura and that mini-dress. Not that she doesn't have the legs for it.) Kirk in particular seems to get into a leather jacket at the earliest opportunity. ("This can't be an official Starfleet mission!" Right.) And everything has to be constantly moving, lest the summer blockbuster audience get bored. At least he's limited most of the lens flare to the bridge scenes.

More central, however, is how the space exploration and meeting exciting alien thing—the core purpose of the original series and those that followed—is also faintly embarrassing to a modern director and a modern audience. There has to be a terrorism allegory, because sci-fi for the sake of sci-fi isn't relevant. The movie itself takes a fairly progressive stance in terms of the War On Turr, but whatever message it's trying to send is buried under the cool explosions.

(I like explosions, and so I enjoy this. But. This is why it's not a Star Trek movie.)


Stuff I liked:
• The new Starfleet uniforms. Um. Umf. Can we be wearing these all the time now? Like, I would wear those not even to be a nerd; they just look really great. Also Cumberkhan's various outfits were all really good.
• New design for the Klingons. I approve. I could even maybe get interested in the Klingons if they continue to be actually menacing and alien-looking.
• The opening sequence admittedly made no sense and was vaguely racist, but it was hella pretty.
• Acting Captain Sulu. Can we kill off Kirk and make Sulu captain?
• Chekov's look of abject terror at "go put on a red shirt." Also his goggles. It's a good look.
• Uhura actually getting to do some stuff and even shoot things.
• That weird looking bald alien/robot/whatever it was on the bridge, and the fact that in every scene, he did something else that was mildly weird and disturbing.
• Scotty having actual morals and acting like someone out of Star Trek.
• Cumberbatch was pretty good. I would have liked it if he was supposed to be someone other than Khan, for so many reasons, but honestly, if he's going to wear a long black coat and punch things, I'm going to be happy.
• In a similar vein, I'll pretty much watch Peter Weller painting a wall and be entertained.
• I liked the glimpses of Future London; unlike most sci-fi depictions of real cities, they kept some of the original architecture and tried to make the space-age buildings fit in coherently, with varying degrees of success. I'll buy it. I also liked the glimpse of Mickey from Doctor Who. <3 Mickey.
• I liked that guy's head exploding.

Things that make me go o_O
• Well, mainly that this didn't want to be a Star Trek movie.
• Cold fusion doesn't work that way.
• The natives weren't supposed to see the Enterprise. How did they not see it descending from the sky and going into the water to hide?
• Carol Marcus is supposed to be a scientist (but not that kind of scientist) but doesn't figure out that her father is immediately going to beam her off deck because she's a fucking idiot.
• Why do they have a tribble? Singular tribble, I mean. Have we forgotten about what tribbles do?
• Wouldn't blood from any of the human popsicles work? Why did they need Khan in particular?
• So basically anyone can be revived from the dead if they're quick enough about it now, right? Like, maybe the many, many other crew members who died besides Kirk?
• The chain of command doesn't work that way.
• A clear motive for Admiral RoboCop might have been nice. A motivation for why his crew was going along with it would be even better.
• Don't even get me started on the torpedos and how they didn't make any sense.
• It's a sign of progress when a white man can play an Indian character formerly played by a Mexican actor. How far we've come with affirmative action.
• Spock yelling, "KHAAAAAAAAN!" Only Shatner is allowed to do that.
• Seriously, not every movie needs to be about fucking terrorism.

Okay, so you have the Wrath of Khan, basically, but without any of the things that made that movie work. There's no history between Khan and Kirk. Everyone's still really young, so there's not any of the pathos that the characters are aging beyond their usefulness. Kirk and Spock are supposedly friends, but we don't see any evidence of this. (We do see homoerotic tension, though; thanks for putting that back in, JJ.) We, the audience, have a stake in it only because we're familiar with the original versions of all these characters, but their interaction completely lacks dramatic weight. And problems largely get solved, not through tough emotional choices, but by punching stuff.

Since a Star Trek movie about, you know, boldly going where no man has gone before, is not ever going to happen, and since studios won't take a risk on a big budget sci-fi movie that isn't part of some known franchise, I'm going to shrug off whatever nerd rage and just enjoy big dumb movies for what they are. Be honest, it's still more fun than Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And most of the others. I admit that I have terrible taste and my favourite is actually the one with the whales, but I have a feeling they won't try to remake that one.

Date: 2013-05-23 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firinel.livejournal.com
*laughs* I liked the one with the whales too. I'm always baffled when people list that as their least favourite.

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Date: 2013-05-23 10:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] monanotlisa.livejournal.com
Oh my God, that movie is MAGIC! I love it so much! I'm admittedly only a casual watcher of any of the Trek tv shows; I can't measure it against season-long story arcs or somesuch, I just have friends who introduced me to The Voyage Home in all its glory. :D

To the original reviewer -- enjoyed this look at the film, thank you!

Date: 2013-05-23 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
My favorite is the quest for peace one, I think. I also like the whale one!

I do like the reboot, though. It may not be original star trek (which had no special effects budget!), but it has good remakes of the great characters (I actually like the reboot versions just as well, and in many cases better, than their original version), and wonderful witty dialogue. The characters' emotions seem real and thoughtful.

Date: 2013-05-23 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fatpie42.livejournal.com
Isn't "Quest For Peace" a Superman movie?

My main problem with this new movie is that ISN'T a reboot any more. "Star Trek" (XI) back in 2009 was a reboot, because it re-introduced the old characters but had them doing something entirely new. This new movie is essentially a remake and inferior remakes are always irritating, particularly if you enjoyed the original.

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Date: 2013-05-23 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marlowe1.livejournal.com
Also love the whole "well I guess we have again killed off half of the population of San Francisco. Let's have a nice little party and a speech." bit.

So is Carol Marcus going to be like Majel Barret's nurse from the original series who is all over the place but no one seems to remember?

Date: 2013-05-23 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marlowe1.livejournal.com
And in all fairness it's a dead tribble until it gets the magical super blood that will now make everyone in the Federation immortal (but no one will speak of again).

I was totally hoping for Star Trek: A Fuckton of Tribbles.

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Date: 2013-05-23 08:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] 4thofeleven.livejournal.com
To be fair, every Trek movie except Generations and '09 Trek seems to have decided for no apparent reason to scrap the clasic coloured uniforms for darker and/or monochromatic ones...

Honestly, I felt the main problem wasn't so much that it wasn't respectful of the source material, so much as it veered wildly back and forth between new material and old stuff. You get your modern, twenty-first century action movie, but then - no, we're bringing back Khan! - but no, it's all different now, and we're all about terrorism allegories - no, wait, we're reenacting Wrath of Khan word for word - no, we're all about the action and black uniforms - look, it's old Spock here to tell us about how badass Khan was in Wrath of Khan!

If it had picked one or the other, it would have been a much stronger movie.

My theory is that the one year flash-forward was less about repairing the Enteprise for its new mission, so much as fumigating it to eliminate the swarm of Khan-blooded undead Tribbles McCoy unwittingly unleashed...

Date: 2013-05-23 11:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lienne.livejournal.com
My theory is that the one year flash-forward was less about repairing the Enteprise for its new mission, so much as fumigating it to eliminate the swarm of Khan-blooded undead Tribbles McCoy unwittingly unleashed...

I support this notion. XD

Date: 2013-05-23 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackspryte.livejournal.com
This actually makes me want to see it more.

Date: 2013-05-23 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outcastspice.livejournal.com
Good points, all!!

My main disappointment was the lack of exploration and originality. So sad.

Wrote more about it here, if you/anyone are interested.
http://outcastspice.tumblr.com/post/50991530297/star-trek-into-disappointment

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Date: 2013-05-23 01:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] curgoth
I hated the Imperial uniforms. Star Fleet does not do hats! It made them look a lot more military, which contrasted badly with the frequent references to star fleet being about exploration and not a military force.

I loved the KHAAAN, though I got smacked by [livejournal.com profile] mycrazyhair for bursting out in laughter when it happened.

I predict that the 72+1 frozen immortality bags will never be mentioned again, nor used to save anyone whose name we don't know. But having the immortality serum mentioned in advance took all the tension out of Kirk's sacrifice - it was obvious that he'd be revived, and how.

I am amused by the possibility that tribbles weren't a problem until Bones made one immortal.

Peter Weller was amazing.

Date: 2013-05-24 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] northbard.livejournal.com
I actually muttered "Please no" right before he Khan'd. Thankfully, I was watching it with someone who was also snickering at times the director would consider inappropriate.

in re Imperial uniforms. Watch STIII:Search for Spock again, the scene where Bones has broken into Spock's quarters (14 minutes in). Tell me they didn't actually improve things?

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Date: 2013-05-23 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radiumhead.livejournal.com
Its not really Star Trek. More like a bad tribute. But its fun.

Fans SHOULD hate it, though. Its nothing more than a cynical cash grab by a man who ADMITTED on tv that he doesnt like Star Trek, OR understand it.

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Damn it, Sabs--

Date: 2013-05-23 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-rex.livejournal.com
(I couldn't think of an appropriate follow-up to that half-subject-line.)

I don't think a good Star Trek movie is actually commercially viable

Bah. You mentioned it as one of your faves. The Wrath of Khan. Actual narrative. Drama. Stuff blowing up. Character development. Pathos. Comedy. The only thing missing is boldly going. And it did well enough commercially to save the franchise.

(Also, the whales movie was wonderful fun, even if it was dumber than a bag of day-old donuts. If I tell myself it was just a really well-made parody, I can still look myself in the mirror for enjoying it.)

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I am shocked (*shocked*)!

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Oh hell ...

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Date: 2013-05-25 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvmatucha.livejournal.com
I can honestly admit that I went in with an unbiased an open mind when I saw the first reboot film. I can also honestly saw I thought it was a terrible film. The engine room as a brewery? Gach. And the GAPING plot hole: If Nero had the ability to time travel, then why didn't he used that to stop his planet's catastrophe in the first place, instead of exacting revenge on people who tried to save his planet? (DOI!!!)

I've read enough about this film that I felt as if I've already seen it. I suppose I shoudl see it, but I'm loathe to. I think Abrams is justpimping the Trek name for filthy luchre. I can see it for free even. (A friend of mine is a theater manager.)

Yeah, the cold fusion thing makes me facepalm. And yeah, only Kirk is allowed to do that. (And maybe John Stewart!)

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