Star Trek: Into Darkness
May. 22nd, 2013 09:58 pmA quick review, 'cause I have a long day tomorrow.
I...didn't hate it? I kind of thought I would. I didn't think it was actually a good Star Trek movie, but as a summer blockbuster with exploding spaceships, it was highly entertaining. I don't think a good Star Trek movie is actually commercially viable, and it also requires a good series, which we don't have at the moment. (What I wouldn't do for a DS9 movie, but that's never gonna happen.)
The puzzling thing about JJ Abrams' reboot is how fundamentally embarrassed it seems to be about the source material. Sure, there are winks and callbacks to TOS, but if you want an indication of what I'm talking about, calculate the actual on-screen time any of the characters are in the iconic uniforms. (Well, except for Uhura and that mini-dress. Not that she doesn't have the legs for it.) Kirk in particular seems to get into a leather jacket at the earliest opportunity. ("This can't be an official Starfleet mission!" Right.) And everything has to be constantly moving, lest the summer blockbuster audience get bored. At least he's limited most of the lens flare to the bridge scenes.
More central, however, is how the space exploration and meeting exciting alien thing—the core purpose of the original series and those that followed—is also faintly embarrassing to a modern director and a modern audience. There has to be a terrorism allegory, because sci-fi for the sake of sci-fi isn't relevant. The movie itself takes a fairly progressive stance in terms of the War On Turr, but whatever message it's trying to send is buried under the cool explosions.
(I like explosions, and so I enjoy this. But. This is why it's not a Star Trek movie.)
Stuff I liked:
• The new Starfleet uniforms. Um. Umf. Can we be wearing these all the time now? Like, I would wear those not even to be a nerd; they just look really great. Also Cumberkhan's various outfits were all really good.
• New design for the Klingons. I approve. I could even maybe get interested in the Klingons if they continue to be actually menacing and alien-looking.
• The opening sequence admittedly made no sense and was vaguely racist, but it was hella pretty.
• Acting Captain Sulu. Can we kill off Kirk and make Sulu captain?
• Chekov's look of abject terror at "go put on a red shirt." Also his goggles. It's a good look.
• Uhura actually getting to do some stuff and even shoot things.
• That weird looking bald alien/robot/whatever it was on the bridge, and the fact that in every scene, he did something else that was mildly weird and disturbing.
• Scotty having actual morals and acting like someone out of Star Trek.
• Cumberbatch was pretty good. I would have liked it if he was supposed to be someone other than Khan, for so many reasons, but honestly, if he's going to wear a long black coat and punch things, I'm going to be happy.
• In a similar vein, I'll pretty much watch Peter Weller painting a wall and be entertained.
• I liked the glimpses of Future London; unlike most sci-fi depictions of real cities, they kept some of the original architecture and tried to make the space-age buildings fit in coherently, with varying degrees of success. I'll buy it. I also liked the glimpse of Mickey from Doctor Who. <3 Mickey.
• I liked that guy's head exploding.
Things that make me go o_O
• Well, mainly that this didn't want to be a Star Trek movie.
• Cold fusion doesn't work that way.
• The natives weren't supposed to see the Enterprise. How did they not see it descending from the sky and going into the water to hide?
• Carol Marcus is supposed to be a scientist (but not that kind of scientist) but doesn't figure out that her father is immediately going to beam her off deck because she's a fucking idiot.
• Why do they have a tribble? Singular tribble, I mean. Have we forgotten about what tribbles do?
• Wouldn't blood from any of the human popsicles work? Why did they need Khan in particular?
• So basically anyone can be revived from the dead if they're quick enough about it now, right? Like, maybe the many, many other crew members who died besides Kirk?
• The chain of command doesn't work that way.
• A clear motive for Admiral RoboCop might have been nice. A motivation for why his crew was going along with it would be even better.
• Don't even get me started on the torpedos and how they didn't make any sense.
• It's a sign of progress when a white man can play an Indian character formerly played by a Mexican actor. How far we've come with affirmative action.
• Spock yelling, "KHAAAAAAAAN!" Only Shatner is allowed to do that.
• Seriously, not every movie needs to be about fucking terrorism.
Okay, so you have the Wrath of Khan, basically, but without any of the things that made that movie work. There's no history between Khan and Kirk. Everyone's still really young, so there's not any of the pathos that the characters are aging beyond their usefulness. Kirk and Spock are supposedly friends, but we don't see any evidence of this. (We do see homoerotic tension, though; thanks for putting that back in, JJ.) We, the audience, have a stake in it only because we're familiar with the original versions of all these characters, but their interaction completely lacks dramatic weight. And problems largely get solved, not through tough emotional choices, but by punching stuff.
Since a Star Trek movie about, you know, boldly going where no man has gone before, is not ever going to happen, and since studios won't take a risk on a big budget sci-fi movie that isn't part of some known franchise, I'm going to shrug off whatever nerd rage and just enjoy big dumb movies for what they are. Be honest, it's still more fun than Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And most of the others. I admit that I have terrible taste and my favourite is actually the one with the whales, but I have a feeling they won't try to remake that one.
I...didn't hate it? I kind of thought I would. I didn't think it was actually a good Star Trek movie, but as a summer blockbuster with exploding spaceships, it was highly entertaining. I don't think a good Star Trek movie is actually commercially viable, and it also requires a good series, which we don't have at the moment. (What I wouldn't do for a DS9 movie, but that's never gonna happen.)
The puzzling thing about JJ Abrams' reboot is how fundamentally embarrassed it seems to be about the source material. Sure, there are winks and callbacks to TOS, but if you want an indication of what I'm talking about, calculate the actual on-screen time any of the characters are in the iconic uniforms. (Well, except for Uhura and that mini-dress. Not that she doesn't have the legs for it.) Kirk in particular seems to get into a leather jacket at the earliest opportunity. ("This can't be an official Starfleet mission!" Right.) And everything has to be constantly moving, lest the summer blockbuster audience get bored. At least he's limited most of the lens flare to the bridge scenes.
More central, however, is how the space exploration and meeting exciting alien thing—the core purpose of the original series and those that followed—is also faintly embarrassing to a modern director and a modern audience. There has to be a terrorism allegory, because sci-fi for the sake of sci-fi isn't relevant. The movie itself takes a fairly progressive stance in terms of the War On Turr, but whatever message it's trying to send is buried under the cool explosions.
(I like explosions, and so I enjoy this. But. This is why it's not a Star Trek movie.)
Stuff I liked:
• The new Starfleet uniforms. Um. Umf. Can we be wearing these all the time now? Like, I would wear those not even to be a nerd; they just look really great. Also Cumberkhan's various outfits were all really good.
• New design for the Klingons. I approve. I could even maybe get interested in the Klingons if they continue to be actually menacing and alien-looking.
• The opening sequence admittedly made no sense and was vaguely racist, but it was hella pretty.
• Acting Captain Sulu. Can we kill off Kirk and make Sulu captain?
• Chekov's look of abject terror at "go put on a red shirt." Also his goggles. It's a good look.
• Uhura actually getting to do some stuff and even shoot things.
• That weird looking bald alien/robot/whatever it was on the bridge, and the fact that in every scene, he did something else that was mildly weird and disturbing.
• Scotty having actual morals and acting like someone out of Star Trek.
• Cumberbatch was pretty good. I would have liked it if he was supposed to be someone other than Khan, for so many reasons, but honestly, if he's going to wear a long black coat and punch things, I'm going to be happy.
• In a similar vein, I'll pretty much watch Peter Weller painting a wall and be entertained.
• I liked the glimpses of Future London; unlike most sci-fi depictions of real cities, they kept some of the original architecture and tried to make the space-age buildings fit in coherently, with varying degrees of success. I'll buy it. I also liked the glimpse of Mickey from Doctor Who. <3 Mickey.
• I liked that guy's head exploding.
Things that make me go o_O
• Well, mainly that this didn't want to be a Star Trek movie.
• Cold fusion doesn't work that way.
• The natives weren't supposed to see the Enterprise. How did they not see it descending from the sky and going into the water to hide?
• Carol Marcus is supposed to be a scientist (but not that kind of scientist) but doesn't figure out that her father is immediately going to beam her off deck because she's a fucking idiot.
• Why do they have a tribble? Singular tribble, I mean. Have we forgotten about what tribbles do?
• Wouldn't blood from any of the human popsicles work? Why did they need Khan in particular?
• So basically anyone can be revived from the dead if they're quick enough about it now, right? Like, maybe the many, many other crew members who died besides Kirk?
• The chain of command doesn't work that way.
• A clear motive for Admiral RoboCop might have been nice. A motivation for why his crew was going along with it would be even better.
• Don't even get me started on the torpedos and how they didn't make any sense.
• It's a sign of progress when a white man can play an Indian character formerly played by a Mexican actor. How far we've come with affirmative action.
• Spock yelling, "KHAAAAAAAAN!" Only Shatner is allowed to do that.
• Seriously, not every movie needs to be about fucking terrorism.
Okay, so you have the Wrath of Khan, basically, but without any of the things that made that movie work. There's no history between Khan and Kirk. Everyone's still really young, so there's not any of the pathos that the characters are aging beyond their usefulness. Kirk and Spock are supposedly friends, but we don't see any evidence of this. (We do see homoerotic tension, though; thanks for putting that back in, JJ.) We, the audience, have a stake in it only because we're familiar with the original versions of all these characters, but their interaction completely lacks dramatic weight. And problems largely get solved, not through tough emotional choices, but by punching stuff.
Since a Star Trek movie about, you know, boldly going where no man has gone before, is not ever going to happen, and since studios won't take a risk on a big budget sci-fi movie that isn't part of some known franchise, I'm going to shrug off whatever nerd rage and just enjoy big dumb movies for what they are. Be honest, it's still more fun than Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And most of the others. I admit that I have terrible taste and my favourite is actually the one with the whales, but I have a feeling they won't try to remake that one.
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Date: 2013-05-23 10:17 pm (UTC)To the original reviewer -- enjoyed this look at the film, thank you!
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:30 am (UTC)I do like the reboot, though. It may not be original star trek (which had no special effects budget!), but it has good remakes of the great characters (I actually like the reboot versions just as well, and in many cases better, than their original version), and wonderful witty dialogue. The characters' emotions seem real and thoughtful.
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:34 pm (UTC)I enjoy the reboot as long as I think of it as not-Star Trek. Which I'm totally capable of doing.
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Date: 2013-05-23 08:47 pm (UTC)My main problem with this new movie is that ISN'T a reboot any more. "Star Trek" (XI) back in 2009 was a reboot, because it re-introduced the old characters but had them doing something entirely new. This new movie is essentially a remake and inferior remakes are always irritating, particularly if you enjoyed the original.
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Date: 2013-05-23 04:17 am (UTC)So is Carol Marcus going to be like Majel Barret's nurse from the original series who is all over the place but no one seems to remember?
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:32 pm (UTC)So is Carol Marcus going to be like Majel Barret's nurse from the original series who is all over the place but no one seems to remember?
I...guess? I really didn't like her casting.
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Date: 2013-05-23 04:18 am (UTC)I was totally hoping for Star Trek: A Fuckton of Tribbles.
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:31 pm (UTC)The Federation is wholly fucked. On the plus side, the Klingon Empire is double-fucked.
"Shoot them in the head!"
"They don't appear to have heads, sir!"
...wheeling back to my previous entry, I think I may need to write some fanfic.
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Date: 2013-05-23 08:04 am (UTC)Honestly, I felt the main problem wasn't so much that it wasn't respectful of the source material, so much as it veered wildly back and forth between new material and old stuff. You get your modern, twenty-first century action movie, but then - no, we're bringing back Khan! - but no, it's all different now, and we're all about terrorism allegories - no, wait, we're reenacting Wrath of Khan word for word - no, we're all about the action and black uniforms - look, it's old Spock here to tell us about how badass Khan was in Wrath of Khan!
If it had picked one or the other, it would have been a much stronger movie.
My theory is that the one year flash-forward was less about repairing the Enteprise for its new mission, so much as fumigating it to eliminate the swarm of Khan-blooded undead Tribbles McCoy unwittingly unleashed...
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Date: 2013-05-23 11:59 am (UTC)I support this notion. XD
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:24 pm (UTC)Because they look silly on the big screen, I think. I'm not sure why that is. I'm really partial to the TOS uniforms, and everything after it until DS9 looked a bit wrong to me.
(I love that DS9 has Garak to snark about Federation uniforms. He didn't do it often enough IMO.)
If it had picked one or the other, it would have been a much stronger movie.
Agreed. Preferably new material, because really, Wrath of Khan is great and they don't need to remake it.
My theory is that the one year flash-forward was less about repairing the Enteprise for its new mission, so much as fumigating it to eliminate the swarm of Khan-blooded undead Tribbles McCoy unwittingly unleashed...
UM YES PLEASE
THIS IS THE MOVIE I WANT TO SEE
CAN THEY MAKE THIS MOVIE RIGHT NOW?
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Date: 2013-05-23 09:21 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2013-05-23 01:47 pm (UTC)My main disappointment was the lack of exploration and originality. So sad.
Wrote more about it here, if you/anyone are interested.
http://outcastspice.tumblr.com/post/50991530297/star-trek-into-disappointment
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:11 pm (UTC)One of the things I’ve loved about Star Trek TOS and TNG is the scenes where the command crew sit down and discuss how to resolve the issue at hand; various points of view are considered, the Captain relies on his crew’s valuable input. Here we don’t have any of that, it’s much too fast-paced and action-packed, and that’s a sad loss.
OMG yes. We had a tease of that, where Bones and Spock talk Kirk out of straight-out LAUNCHING ZEE MISSILES but that shouldn't even have been necessary.
STID started to bring up very interesting questions about the militarization of Starfleet, but didn’t go into the issue in detail. That would’ve made a VERY interesting movie, and one that fits nicely with a more exploration-focused Star Trek.
I'd really like to see something like this at some point (well, DS9, but that was a long time ago and a radically different political context)—they're back from the five-year mission and Starfleet has radically changed. Maybe similar to what Farscape did in that one episode where Crichton ended up back on Earth and was absolutely horrified at the War on Terror.
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Date: 2013-05-23 01:53 pm (UTC)I loved the KHAAAN, though I got smacked by
I predict that the 72+1 frozen immortality bags will never be mentioned again, nor used to save anyone whose name we don't know. But having the immortality serum mentioned in advance took all the tension out of Kirk's sacrifice - it was obvious that he'd be revived, and how.
I am amused by the possibility that tribbles weren't a problem until Bones made one immortal.
Peter Weller was amazing.
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Date: 2013-05-23 03:06 pm (UTC)I think that's the point. They reminded me of Soviet uniforms. I guess it wouldn't be great for the Andorians.
I loved the KHAAAN, though I got smacked by mycrazyhair for bursting out in laughter when it happened.
I knew it was coming and I still cracked up. I was saddened that most of the theater didn't.
I am amused by the possibility that tribbles weren't a problem until Bones made one immortal.
Ooops. Actually, I like this idea a lot.
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Date: 2013-05-24 12:43 am (UTC)in re Imperial uniforms. Watch STIII:Search for Spock again, the scene where Bones has broken into Spock's quarters (14 minutes in). Tell me they didn't actually improve things?
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Date: 2013-05-23 02:39 pm (UTC)Fans SHOULD hate it, though. Its nothing more than a cynical cash grab by a man who ADMITTED on tv that he doesnt like Star Trek, OR understand it.
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Date: 2013-05-23 02:59 pm (UTC)Hah. Oh wow. This doesn't really surprise me.
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Date: 2013-05-23 04:26 pm (UTC)I don't think a good Star Trek movie is actually commercially viable
Bah. You mentioned it as one of your faves. The Wrath of Khan. Actual narrative. Drama. Stuff blowing up. Character development. Pathos. Comedy. The only thing missing is boldly going. And it did well enough commercially to save the franchise.
(Also, the whales movie was wonderful fun, even if it was dumber than a bag of day-old donuts. If I tell myself it was just a really well-made parody, I can still look myself in the mirror for enjoying it.)
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Date: 2013-05-23 07:34 pm (UTC)Watch it again. It's a slow build. Kirk and Khan are never in the same location. It wouldn't be commercially viable at all now.
It is Right and Correct to love the whales movie. Open your heart to the power of space whales.
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Date: 2013-05-25 03:46 pm (UTC)I've read enough about this film that I felt as if I've already seen it. I suppose I shoudl see it, but I'm loathe to. I think Abrams is justpimping the Trek name for filthy luchre. I can see it for free even. (A friend of mine is a theater manager.)
Yeah, the cold fusion thing makes me facepalm. And yeah, only Kirk is allowed to do that. (And maybe John Stewart!)
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Date: 2013-05-25 03:50 pm (UTC)You should go see it for free because your review will be hilarious.