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“If a chap can’t compose an epic poem while he’s weaving a tapestry, he had better shut up, he’ll never do any good at all.” — William Morris

THAT’S RIGHT EVERYONE there is a William Morris museum in his old house.

Okay so William Morris is the most relatable historical figure. He was bougie as anything and wrote utopian science fiction and did LARP before it was called that, and loved pretty things, and also he was a hardcore socialist and published books on the Paris Commune and Kropotkin. And also was just the most brilliant artist, which I am not, but he basically sits at the intersection of all of my interests.

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Then we took a long walk and met some boat cats, which apparently belong to people on the boats and I can’t take them home with me, no matter how much they clearly wanted to come home with me. There were even baby swans (less friendly).

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Apparently there is a Canadian bar here. It looks like the worst thing ever and has a fuckzillion types of poutine. I am embarrassed for my country.

Date: 2019-07-21 08:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] franklanguage
New favorite word: "fuckzillion."

I never did try poutine when I was an omni—nor a "caribou" when I was a drinker—but I will probably try vegan poutine if the opportunity presents itself.

Date: 2019-07-21 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chickenfeet
There is good poutine though not of a type of which you would approve. C'est What's butter chicken poutine is good and one of JK's establishments did a duck confit poutne.

Date: 2019-07-21 08:27 pm (UTC)
numb3r_5ev3n: Dragon pendant I got at a renfaire. (Default)
From: [personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n
Oh cool! (And were they socialist kittehs?)

Date: 2019-07-21 10:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] curgoth
I think the goal was this video from Rathergood where stompy kitties sing Laibach's Tanz Mit Laibach?

Date: 2019-07-22 04:28 am (UTC)
numb3r_5ev3n: Dragon pendant I got at a renfaire. (Default)
From: [personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n
Yeah I am not sure what happened there.

Date: 2019-07-22 04:28 am (UTC)
numb3r_5ev3n: Dragon pendant I got at a renfaire. (Default)
From: [personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n
It's the Rathergood stompy kittens :)

Date: 2019-07-22 12:47 am (UTC)
sara: S (Default)
From: [personal profile] sara
Wow, is that William Morris' protest banner?

That is even better than the one I made for the Science March and I am pretty proud of that one.

Date: 2019-07-22 01:15 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
This post will flush out all the Wm. Morris fans, heh.

Date: 2019-07-22 01:14 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I LOVE WILLIAM MORRIS I TOOK THIS WHOLE CLASS ON HIM AND READ HIS PSEUDO-MEDIEVAL POETRY ahem.

Date: 2019-07-22 01:02 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
His poetry is so beautiful! But really sad. And the Kelmscott books are gorgeous.

Date: 2019-07-22 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
Thank you for describing William Morris asa LARPEr, that just made my day. William Morris was great, I think he needs more memes.

Date: 2019-07-22 05:09 am (UTC)
sara: S (Default)
From: [personal profile] sara
...there are about six people in the entire world who'd be like OMG WILLIAM MORRIS MEMES and four of us are already here.

Date: 2019-07-22 05:14 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
Hahahahahhaaaa!

Okay, maybe you have a point. but I bet there are a lot of people who learned about Kropotkin and others from shit posts and meme pages, and we can create William Morris fandom the same way.

Date: 2019-07-22 05:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sara
Hey now. I learned about Kropotkin the old-fashioned way: from Grant Morrison's Invisibles.

Date: 2019-07-22 05:21 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
I learned about him from Michael Moorcock novels, particularly the Jerry Cornelius stuff.

Date: 2019-07-22 05:28 am (UTC)
sara: S (Default)
From: [personal profile] sara
I could never find those. I read a couple of the mopey vampire sword ones and went meh, not my bag.

Date: 2019-07-22 05:33 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
I don't mind the mopey albino sorcerer stuff, but my favourites are the End of Time, which is where Iron Orchid appears.

Date: 2019-07-22 10:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
I read his sword and sorcery stuff when I was younger, bored, and less choosy about what I read.

I do recommend the following series:
1. The Dancers at the End of Time series as a good place to start, they're silly and fun and a lot less angsty. I'm particularly fond of the shorter stories, but they rely on knowledge of characters and setting.
2. A Nomad of the Time Streams is proto-steampunk and airships and alternate histories, including Alt!Stalin.
3. The Von Bek Omnibus. Von Bek is angst and mysticism and searching for the holy grail during the 100 years war, and members of his family turn up in a bunch of other books. (I tried to read The Brothel in Rosenstrasse but couldn't get more than 10 pages into it.)
4. My absolute favourite of Moorcock's books are the The Second Ether sequence, but I don't know how much of that was a case of my having already read most of his stuff by the time they came out, because there are a lot of references to and cameos by his other characters/themes/etc. The quality of the writing is much better than his earlier stuff, and I think you would enjoy the multilayered narrative. Also, there are pirates.

I have tried to start Byzantium Endures several times, I have it in hardcover and as an ebook (it was in Nick's Anarchist SF bundle). But I keep sliding off it.

P. and I sent him an fan letter/poem in the late 90s about how we couldn't understand some of his tripier stuff from the late 70s like The Entropy Tango. We go a reply from the head of his fan club. (I don't recommend starting with that one.)

Date: 2019-07-22 01:04 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Ooh, nice.

Date: 2019-07-22 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rdi
Mother London is also an amazing read. It’s kind of his love letter to the city.

Date: 2019-07-22 10:37 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
William Morris memes for Pre-Raphaelite teens.

Date: 2019-07-22 01:03 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
LOL YES

Date: 2019-07-22 10:34 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
Total LARPing. Let's play at being pre-renaissance artisans!

Date: 2019-07-22 01:07 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
IIRC it was a total Thing for the Pre-Raffs and Victorians to make living tableaux of each other, paint/photograph the results, have amateur theatricals and wander around in costume. Well a Thing for the boho artsy types anyway.

Date: 2019-07-22 01:05 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
LOL and also wasn't Julia Margaret Cameron dressing people up for her photographs? She took pictures of Jane Morris, or am I misremembering?

Date: 2019-07-25 02:33 pm (UTC)
cloudsinvenice: "everyone's mental health is a bit shit right now, so be gentle" (Default)
From: [personal profile] cloudsinvenice
Oh my god I want to go and play at his house!

Date: 2019-07-22 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
I MISS POUTINE SO MUCH TAKE ME

also cool skirt

Date: 2019-07-25 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
Is this a vegan thing? I've had very good mushroom gravy, and I don't know what to offer in terms of vegan cheese curds but how can you dislike any meal with fries as the base?

Date: 2019-07-27 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
I disagree, but I see your point.

Date: 2019-07-22 03:15 pm (UTC)
rdi: A Fender Telecaster (Default)
From: [personal profile] rdi
Morris was awesome and becomes more so as I find out more about him

Date: 2019-07-24 07:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pofflewomp
Cooool! I went there long ago in my teens.

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