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Virginia governor declares Confederate History Month. What? Really?

The Catholic Church knowingly dumped pedophile priests in remote native villages in Alaska, because, hey, who could stop them?

The Afghan torture hearings continue, but don't think that you get to hear about it.

Speaking of which, remember when we invaded Afghanistan to drive out the Taliban and bring in democracy? LOL.

The Ontario government continues not to do anything about the mercury contamination in Grassy Narrows, the result of the Dryden Pulp & Paper Co. dumping 9,000 kg of mercury into the Wabigoon River.

This is just chilling to listen to. Some radio asshats making jokes about starvation in Haïti.

The same high school that cancelled prom rather than let Constance McMillen bring her girlfriend did something even worse to another kid. 16-year-old Juin Baize was kicked out on his first day of class, and his family was eventually forced to relocate to Florida to protect his safety, just for being transgendered.

Cats at the Toronto Humane Society are in danger of being euthanized if homes are not found for them by April 12.

Date: 2010-04-08 12:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-08 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corwin77.livejournal.com
Wow that's...a lot. Have you considered spending some time viewing pictures of baby penguins instead, not for always just once in awhile. Maybe not so angry making. Unless the baby penguins are also like Nazis or something...

Date: 2010-04-08 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
Virginia is for haters.

Off Topic

Date: 2010-04-08 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
There has been so much suck lately.

You need some awesome and here it is - The Master and the Margarita has come true:



No word yet on whether it can fire a pistol.

Date: 2010-04-08 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] springheel-jack.livejournal.com
That story about child-raping priests in Alaska has been around for a while - I guess it was just waiting to get traction.

Date: 2010-04-08 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughingimp.livejournal.com
Seriously. There is a shocking amount of WTF that happens in that state.

Date: 2010-04-08 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com
^Historic Preservationist going to school in VA sees nothing inherently wrong with having a Confederate History month.

Seriously, what's the problem?

Date: 2010-04-08 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rojonoir.livejournal.com
The governor of virginia is really ridiculous when you think about it. The one thing the republicans have to be proud of is that they were on the right side of the civil war. And then in order to get the racist vote he decides to honor the confederacy and purposely makes no mention of slavery (because then the racists will be pissed off, and that's kind of against the whole point of it). And then when there's a flap, he goes and says a bunch of stuff about slavery and now the racists see him as weak, caving into pressure from the anti-slavery liberals. But everyone else noticed that his excuse is that slavery slipped his mind because when he thinks of the confederacy he just doesn't think about the slaves at all. So end result is that the racists see him as a tool of the NAACP and everyone else sees him as a raving racist.

Never mind the fact that the republican's answer to losing the healthcare fight is to dig up the corpses of dead losers from two centuries ago and side with them.

And did you hear that McCain is no longer a maverick? LOL

Re: Off Topic

Date: 2010-04-08 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanmonster.livejournal.com
I've heard that music before...but where?

RE: Virginia

Date: 2010-04-08 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanmonster.livejournal.com
Photobucket
Edited Date: 2010-04-08 12:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-08 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
Someone, I think in JournalFen's community unfunnybusiness, made a remark to the effect that that entire high school, if not that entire town, seemed to be going for the "evilest place to live ever" award. I'm beginning to agree. They are just about a puppy-kicking program and a Death Star away from being renamed The Galactic Empire. Seriously, guys.

Re the radio... people: "You have to laugh, lest you cry" does not apply like that, morons.

Date: 2010-04-08 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughingimp.livejournal.com
Strictly as a matter of historical preservation, I support it. This could be done very well, and very tastefully.

And if this is really a thinly-disguised Federal Government Can Go Screw Itself Month, I wouldn't immediately get all bent out of shape about it (though I don't agree with that position).

Here's where I get concerned: I've never spent a substantial amount of time in Virginia, but in the Midwest, when people start flying the Stars and Bars and talking about how the South Will Rise Again and so on, they're not talking about states' rights, they're talking about racism, and how we need more of it. If there is to be a Confederate History Month, I'd want to make sure that it's not a vehicle for renewed acceptance of racist hate speech or oppression.

tl;dr, sorry...

Date: 2010-04-08 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com
That kind of bullshit wouldn't fly with any professionals in my field I've ever met. They tend to be very cautious about how controversial subjects are treated for exactly the reason you named -- because there are loonies out there who take things like that to extremes. I have never personally met any in Virginia, though there are probably as many there as anywhere.

I'm sure there are political reasons behind the decision and however it will be interpreted -- there always are -- but at the same time, I actually think it sounds like a neat idea. Confederate history is a rather large part of the history of Virginia, as a state and as a SOUTHERN state. I can't speak for the whole state, but the part of it I'm familiar with, the places I've gone and the people who have been my professors and guest lecturers and people I've just happened to meet while working and researching... they are all VERY conscious of the potential Issues with interpreting Confederate history and any history that involves political and social issues like that. And however the Governor proposes to actually DO anything with a Confederate History Month, the folks in my field are damn well going to take the initiative to stick their noses into it and see that it's done right. Because that's our job, whether we're technically being invited to do it or not. It's... what we do.

For me and I think for just about anyone else who works in preservation, having ANYTHING historic given special recognition is a good thing. Your concerns are valid ones if what happens is that educators and entertainers and media people with no specific training in history or preservation are just sort of handed a vaguely-defined "now teach/talk about/do THIS" kind of plan... but I feel pretty confident that the people in my field who are involved in any aspect of it will absolutely do their best to not let it turn into a Hatred Soapbox. From a preservation standpoint, I would think it's more likely that historians who are involved will likely use it as an opportunity to explore and educate people about topics like African-American history (always in need of expansion), to demonstrate clearly why racial issues existed and why it was Very Wrong, and to talk about what ELSE the Confederacy stood for, because it really wasn't The War Of Slave Owners Vs. The People For Equality. That was a big issue, but an entire half of the country didn't go to WAR with the other half just because they wanted to continue to have unpaid laborers to work their plantations.

So... I think having a Confederate History Month is a great thing, because... well everyone knows more or less what the North was all about, but just like you, most people hear "Confederate" and think "slave-owning traitors booo!" I don't think that's fair and it's certainly not accurate, and since Virginia is a Southern state and has so much of its past rooted in the Confederate side of things, what it really boils down to is that the people of Virginia deserve to have that part of their history be something they can really understand from the point of view of their ancestors who MADE that history, instead of having it just be something that is oversimplified into a part of their history, of their very GENES, that they have to be ashamed of or something that perpetuates the use of Confederate symbols and butchered philosophies as banners of racism.

History ain't always pretty, but it's what makes us who we are, and something so broadly misunderstood and misused SHOULD be given focus in order to correct the misconceptions and educate people about where they REALLY come from.
Edited Date: 2010-04-08 09:31 pm (UTC)

Re: Off Topic

Date: 2010-04-11 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanmonster.livejournal.com
Aha! The music is from Cowboy Bebop.

Re: Off Topic

Date: 2010-04-11 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
Which CD? There are several. Is it on the one you loaned me?

Re: Virginia

Date: 2010-04-11 09:16 pm (UTC)

Re: tl;dr, sorry...

Date: 2010-04-11 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
And however the Governor proposes to actually DO anything with a Confederate History Month, the folks in my field are damn well going to take the initiative to stick their noses into it and see that it's done right. Because that's our job, whether we're technically being invited to do it or not.

I think the current Texas textbook fiasco shows, that politicians are not interested in the opinions of historians. As the article notes,"There were no historians, sociologists or economists consulted at the meetings, though some members of the conservative bloc held themselves out as experts on certain topics." Corporate news and popular culture often ignores historians as well.

Re: Off Topic

Date: 2010-04-13 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanmonster.livejournal.com
The song is "Cats on Mars”, from Cowboy Bebop Vol. 2. No, I don't own it.

Re: Off Topic

Date: 2010-04-13 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rohmie.livejournal.com
Appropriate.

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